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re: Jamie Newman highlights

Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:46 am to
If peter could grow up, and stick to the football subject being discussed, his poster quality rating would sky rocket. He has a ways to go, but that post was a great start. You can do it peter!
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:05 am to
And you will still be a know nothing troll...
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:18 am to
The only time I reduce myself to your level of troll is in response to your immature troll flames when I make football points you can’t refute. You improving in that aspect would automatically improve my posting. I can’t do it without you. Just need you to take the next step.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:27 am to
So now its my fault you don’t know the frick what you are talking about? Interesting
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:59 am to
Whenever I have discussed a bad pass by Fromm, you never went beyond the worthless “troll/woman” flame. That’s all on you, and the only thing such responses proved was your immaturity or inability to prove my claim wrong.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:48 pm to
Dj, it is much more entertaining to watch you latch on and burrow into the shithats on the sec rant. When you do it here, it is just annoying.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 1:01 pm to
Can’t argue with that. Infighting amongst dawgs is always more annoying than a united front against gators, vols, tigers, and techies. It’s a shame many of my haters on here don’t know my work defending the dawgs and attacking the rivals at the sec board, so they buy into peters idiotic accusation of “you a stupid troll”.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:20 am to
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Dude has experience, size, mobility, and an arm. IMO we can win with this guy.
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Experience? Against what, porous defenses? Since everyone likes to tout records against ranked teams, whats his? I hope I'm wrong, but this guy shows me nothing other than being able to run. And before we start hearing about "tight coverage", look at the defenses he played against.

As I said, I hope I'm wrong. But I see our offense stepping back even more. Sure, we can win a 10-0 game or so, but when we go up against real teams and have to score 30+ to stay in it, much less win? Don't see it. Convince me otherwise.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:52 am to
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Experience? Against what, porous defenses? Since everyone likes to tout records against ranked teams, whats his?


He played at wake forest, so this standard isn’t reasonable for him.

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before we start hearing about "tight coverage", look at the defenses he played against.


Tight coverage is requires strong Accuracy no matter the opponent.

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when we go up against real teams and have to score 30+ to stay in it, much less win?


We don’t beat Baylor, auburn, Florida, or Texas aggies if we had to score 30+
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:09 am to
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He played at wake forest, so this standard isn’t reasonable for him.



And he didn't exactly light it up, either. Still haven't convinced me.

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We don’t beat Baylor, auburn, Florida, or Texas aggies if we had to score 30+


And we won't next year.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:17 am to
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Experience? Against what, porous defenses? Since everyone likes to tout records against ranked teams, whats his? I hope I'm wrong, but this guy shows me nothing other than being able to run. And before we start hearing about "tight coverage", look at the defenses he played against.

As I said, I hope I'm wrong. But I see our offense stepping back even more. Sure, we can win a 10-0 game or so, but when we go up against real teams and have to score 30+ to stay in it, much less win? Don't see it. Convince me otherwise.
This is dumb. You're being an ignorant contrarian at this point.

His mobility isn't even his defining trait.

He not only had the #1 passer rating in tight window coverage, but the highest completion rate in the country on those throws. As well as just being behind Joe Burrow with 2nd highest passer rating on passes over 20 yards, as well as 6th in the country in passer rating while under pressure.

Take away his receivers 30+ dropped passes and his overall completion rate is around 69%. His OL was rated the worst in the ACC. Just watch the film, you can't miss it.

Worst OL and yet he was 6th in the nation in passer rating while under pressure.

He beat a ranked NC St. twice, went 11-5 as a starter, and got freaking Wake Forest a top-25 ranking for the first time in ages. And it's not like North Carolina, NC St., Boston College, Louisville, and Duke are freaking D2 schools. He outplayed Daniel Jones and beat Duke when they had their QB get drafted top-5.

Not to mention all you have to really do is watch some of his games. If you know anything about football, you can easily see his mechanics are stellar and his accuracy is VERY good.

Put some effort into this because it sounds like you haven't done an ounce of actual research and are just being lazy for the sake of stirring up shite.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:25 am to
As I said, against what competition? I sure as hell hope I’m wrong. 26 tds to 11 ints last year versus those teams? Granted his “percentage” is up there, but this guy is more serviceable than not (hopefully).

The biggest question is can he carry the team when numbers are important? This isn’t the ACC.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:43 am to
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And he didn't exactly light it up, either. Still haven't convinced me.


Because you can’t expect a wake forest anyone to light it up.

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And we won't next year.


We shouldn’t need to with our defense. Just like we didn’t need to in 2019.

Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:07 am to
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As I said, against what competition? I sure as hell hope I’m wrong. 26 tds to 11 ints last year versus those teams? Granted his “percentage” is up there, but this guy is more serviceable than not (hopefully).

The biggest question is can he carry the team when numbers are important? This isn’t the ACC.
UGA isn't going to have a bad OL, much less the worst OL in the ACC.

He's not going to need to run for his life or throw with pressure literally in his face on 90% of plays almost instantly here like he was there.

Nor will our receivers drop 30+ catchable balls.

Nor is he going to have unreliable 2-3* RB's leading his ground game.

Nor is he going to have a defense that doesn't give him a chance and forces him to play from behind against top tier teams.

Nor is he going to have minimum wage and bargain basement coaches and facilities.

Advanced stats and EASY eye test shows he has all the tools you want in an elite QB, not just some average stop-gap hopeful. Dwelling on TD's and Ints and not taking into consideration all the factors that go into that in a team sport and putting them 100% on this single player's head is just not how it works, and is obtuse and naive.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:38 am to
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BeefDawg


Well stated.


Question.....do we for sure only get one year out of Newman? Just couldn't recall the circumstances that led to Burrow having two years of eligibility. Was he a grad transfer or just a transfer? Assuming Newman has the kind of productive year we all hope for, I assume he's gone either way, but was just curious.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:11 pm to
Just 1 year from Newman. He’s already played 4 years but one was a redshirt. So he’s still got 1 year of eligibility. And since he graduated academically, he can transfer anywhere and not have to sit a year.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:25 pm to
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Just 1 year from Newman. He’s already played 4 years but one was a redshirt. So he’s still got 1 year of eligibility. And since he graduated academically, he can transfer anywhere and not have to sit a year.



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