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Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:53 pm to
Are you going on the record, right now, to say that Cook will be getting as many touches as Swift did through week 6?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:54 pm to
Are you going on the record, right now, to say that Cook will be getting as many touches [in 2018] as Swift did [in 2017]through week 6?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:00 pm to
Crazy thread, obviously going through spring camp would make any freshman better. They can still be great showing up in August but knowing the plays better and adding 15-20 pounds of muscle and syncing up with the qb would just make them better.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:01 pm to
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RIt’s certainly valid if it hits you square in the hands, which didn’t happen.


You don’t catch with your hands, you catch with your fingers. Please talk about brownies. You don’t know a goddam thing about football.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:15 pm to
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in the context of James Cook, he has a stacked roster of running backs and receivers in front of him.


Just like Swift.

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he's among other elite badasses that are competing for snaps.



Just like Swift.

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the coaches just aren't going to have enough time with him to evaluate him.


Just like Swift.

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, they aren't going to have a large enough body of work one-on-one


Just like Swift.

There clearly are not any big differences between the 2 situations.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:16 pm to
Are you going on the record, right now, to say that Cook will be getting as many touches [in 2018] as Swift did [in 2017]through week 6?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:23 pm to
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You don’t catch with your hands, you catch with your fingers


Thanks captain obvious. If you of all people know that, I am pretty sure we all do.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Are you going on the record, right now, to say that Cook will be getting as many touches [in 2018] as Swift did [in 2017]through week 6?


Nope, and thats besides the point, which is the numerous flaws of your reasoning you refuse to acknowledge.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:39 pm to
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Nope,




What is your prediction on how Cooks will be used, and when, and how often?

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Thanks captain obvious. If you of all people know that, I am pretty sure we all do.


Derp
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

Derp


Stick to what you know best, which seems to consist of brownies and OL.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:56 pm to
Tell us more about catching a football again.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:02 pm to
No... If we're getting to the core of this little short dick measuring contest, it was about Cook and his possible utilization in 2018... That it has evolved into this nonsense does nothing to change the fact that this is as close to "back on topic" as we've been in a while.

If you don't think that by week 6 that he will have as many touches as Swift did, I'd say an explanation for why might be in order... Specifically distinguishing your position from rig's...

Just my two cents...
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:05 pm to
She just wants to troll and argue. That’s why it’s best to just reply with Derp and let her be cu Nty.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14167 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:13 pm to
This whole thread is like watching a bunch of monkeys fighting over a grape.

All Rig said was that Cook would’ve been in a better position had he enrolled early. He may walk out there and go nuts but it doesn’t change the fact that he would’ve been in a better spot with the extra practice. That’s it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:17 pm to
Edit, mixup
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:18 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:37 pm to
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This is like playing cards with Cracker's sister's kids.


You are a patient man, deep.

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He puts himself at a disadvantage coming in late


Can you quantify the disadvantage for Gurley or Swift?
Is there anything factual?

I get the common sense. I really do. 8 months is greater than 1 month.

But there isn't anything provable that Gurley would have done more with an extra 7 months. There isn't anything provable that Swift would have a better ypc with 7 more months.

There is nothing wrong with looking at history and questioning the common sense that 7 months is greater than 1.
There is nothing wrong with looking for quantifiable data to support an argument. Or lack thereof.

Was this an argument worth having? All you have is a "want" that cook enrolled early and "common sense" that 7 is greater than 1.

Is it worth hashing out common ground here?
Posted by Faceplant
Member since Jul 2017
1016 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:37 pm to
I really like this thread
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:19 pm to
Fib, I appreciate the assist about Peter's misinterpretation of "hitting you in your hands", which he totally avoided.

With that said, digging into the reasoning Rig used to support his opinion is well within the confines of this topic. Why matters. There are certainly reasons why I think Cook wouldnt get early touches, but that doesnt mean Rig has provided them.

You may disagree, but its important to note that the same reasoning Rig is using for Cook 2018 could have been applied to Swift 2017. Since it didnt hold up then, why would it now? Its a fair question.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:41 pm to
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Derp


You once asked, "Did the pass hit him in the hands?"

Well, define hands Peter.
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