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Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:55 pm to
And he was limited until later in the season.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 5:59 pm to
Swift was immediately our #3 rb. Gurley was our #1 from the start.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:07 pm to
Yeah. Swift and Gurley popped in my head right away with that comment.

Andrew Thomas wasn't an early enrollee (different position, but it emphasizes Kirby's point that good football players will play as soon as they can be trusted)
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:09 pm to
Im confused what your point is. Please articulate.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:10 pm to
I'm guessing that he means they were not early enrollees.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:19 pm to
They were not enrolled early and all were ready to contribute early.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

go back and look at his freshman highlights.


You are talking the badass down but talking the other guy up. I don’t get it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

They were not enrolled early and all were ready to contribute early.


Swift was ready to contribute early as a 3rd string running back who didn't really contribute much until halfway through the season because Chubb and Michel and Holyfield and Herrien were in front of him. Yes, he eventually carved out his place, but it took a minute.

Gurley was in a unique position in that he came in with no real starters ahead of him.

The fact neither Swift nor Gurley enrolled early has no bearing on my position that Cook's inability to enroll early will hinder the rate at which he becomes a contributor. The situations are entirely different. Reread my post.

With Swift, White, Holyfield, Herrien already established in the program ahead of him at RB, and Hardman/Crumpton ahead of him at slot, he's got a higher hill to climb with only a month to prove himself on the practice field.... which is why I said he will be second half of season before breaking out.

Slow your mind down, take a few deep breaths with your eyes closed, try to turn off the internal dialogue that rages inside of your head. Breathe. Now open your eyes and re-read my post.

Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:01 pm to
Swift touches by game:
9
3
10
11
6
6
6
7
5
4
7
5
8
4
4

Looks like Swift contributed pretty equally all season.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:22 pm to
The hindrance for Cook is his ability to pick up pass protection assignments.

He limits the playbook if he can't pickup a blitz.

That has more to do with his size than his time on campus.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Holyfield and Herrien were in front of him.


No they were not. Swift jumped them with ease at the start.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 8:27 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Swift touches by game:
9
3
10
11
6
6
6
7
5
4
7
5
8
4
4

Looks like Swift contributed pretty equally all season.


Without context, your random number string is meaningless.

Hey, I hope I'm wrong. I hope he gets 3000 yards and wins the Heisman.

I just think he's at a slight disadvantage coming in late with this roster than if he had come in Spring.

What kind of person would argue against this? Someone just looking to argue?

This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

No they were not. Swift jumped them with ease at the start.


It helped that Holyfied was suspended for weed.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:34 pm to
What context do you want? You said Swift didn’t contribute until later in the year. I posted stats that show you’re just talking shite! He actually had more touches in games 3&4 than any other games.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

What context do you want? You said Swift didn’t contribute until later in the year. I posted stats that show you’re just talking shite! He actually had more touches in games 3&4 than any other games.



Blowouts vs Samford and Msst.

Context....

Walk away.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

djsdawg



quote:

This post was edited on 8/8 at 8:27 pm



It's eeeeeasy sometimes when you just coast along. But like it or not, something always seems to go wrong.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:43 pm to
Ok, take those two games out and then make your case that he didn’t contribute until later in the year.

You

Walk away!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Ok, take those two games out and then make your case


You want me to contextualize your number string for you?

No thanks. You're a big boy. You can do it yourself, if you really want to.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:14 pm to
You know you made a good point when the other guy derps, recipes, mongos, zzzzzz’s, or calls out an edit. Don’t stoop to peter or Jeff levels deep. You are better than that. Just man up.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63941 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

You know you made a good point when the other guy derps, recipes, mongos, zzzzzz’s, or calls out an edit. Don’t stoop to peter or Jeff levels deep. You are better than that. Just man up.



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