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re: If Fields had stayed
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:30 am to bunkerhill
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:30 am to bunkerhill
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This receiving corp at Ga is the worst I can remember seeing there. Fromm has gone downhill in the last several weeks. He strikes me as a guy that has lost his confidence.
We've got three 5 star guys at receiver. I don't see them as being the problem. Yes, Blaylock and Pickens are true freshman. Robertson came from Cal. They're talented guys who Fromm isn't finding and isn't getting them the ball accurately enough. Some of it is Coley, some of it is youth, but a lot of it is on Fromm. He's regressed.
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:34 am to retooc
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Slow defenses. Rack up stats vs terrible opponents.
LOL! Neither of those is terrible opponents. The ironic thing about that statement is Fromm has trouble racking up decent stats against sh*t teams. Fromm has often been incapable of hitting an open receiver, or even seeing them at times, and you're downplaying Fields?
I'm also tired of the argument that Fields doesn't fit our offense. It's a BS argument to make it seem like Fromm was the right choice.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/25/19 at 7:55 pm to Buzz Killington
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They're not right now. However, we have multiple 5 stars at that position so its Coley's fault for not scheming them open. But they were able to get open yesterday and Jake missed them badly. I think Jake is playing scared because Kirby has mind fricked him into avoiding mistakes.
Scheming them open?
So, how exactly do you "scheme" a WR open?
Posted on 11/25/19 at 7:57 pm to DawgsLife
You call a play that finds a hole in the defensive coverage, which produces an open wr.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:05 pm to DawgsLife
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So, how exactly do you "scheme" a WR open?
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:39 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:41 pm to TMDawg
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So, how exactly do you "scheme" a WR open?
Like this
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:05 pm to djsdawg
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You call a play that finds a hole in the defensive coverage, which produces an open wr.
Ahh. But that WR still has to run a precise pattern and put a move on the defender to get open. that is what is lacking too often.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:33 am to AlaCowboy
The point is when they are getting open, Fromm is missing them too often, and we aren’t gonna win the sec and make the playoffs with Fromm doing that.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:11 am to VADawg
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quote:Scheming them open? So, how exactly do you "scheme" a WR open? Like this
Great example. You give the defense a look that suggests something they have seen in film many times and then you do something completely different out of that formation. It's not hard for an innovative OC. The defense never knows for sure what you are going to do on offense unless you make it obvious like we do most of the time.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:54 am to djsdawg
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You call a play that finds a hole in the defensive coverage, which produces an open wr.
Absolutely! Easy!
If only we knew what coverage and personnel the defense was going to be in.
We can guess, but there are so many different coverages and personnel packages that it is almost impossible to know what the other team will be in. WE might know tendencies, but the other team knows their own tendencies and try to break the habit as the season goes on.
But sure. We can just dial up the play that will "scheme" a WR into the open. I don't know why we don't scheme a WR open on every play? Coaching, I guess.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:57 am to VADawg
Great! I wonder why we don't do that on all our plays? Coaches, maybe?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:06 am to DawgsLife
Did you miss the long td pass vs Florida? Schemed him open
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:42 am to djsdawg
Ahhhhhh man it's crazy how many stupid ignorant people are on here to the X's and Os of football! Fooman I don't know how you can handle these football knowledge tards.
Jake hasn't been stellar this year but he has done enough with the shittiest recievers we have had in the last 8 years. Coley could do better but to be honest Kirby wants to control the ball and fricking play big boy football and guess what we are winning.
I mean damn we barely lost to a SCar team when we had 4 freaking turnovers. You shouldn't even be in the ballgame with 4 turnovers.
Fields has done really well for himself and good for him. Helps he plays Hellen Keller week in and week out and has a group of WRs that would make Stevie Wonder look good. He could not nor did he have a chance in UGA offense. That offense is as close as it gets to NFL caliber knowledge. Fromm is better than anyone in the game when it comes to mistakes and pre snap reads. Fields is in a much simpler offense with almost zero pre snap reads. He gets away with it at OSU because defenses there aren't fast enough to contain him. But you play in the SEC and see a D that you can't escape from when your one or two route options aren't open he gets eaten up.
Jake hasn't been stellar this year but he has done enough with the shittiest recievers we have had in the last 8 years. Coley could do better but to be honest Kirby wants to control the ball and fricking play big boy football and guess what we are winning.
I mean damn we barely lost to a SCar team when we had 4 freaking turnovers. You shouldn't even be in the ballgame with 4 turnovers.
Fields has done really well for himself and good for him. Helps he plays Hellen Keller week in and week out and has a group of WRs that would make Stevie Wonder look good. He could not nor did he have a chance in UGA offense. That offense is as close as it gets to NFL caliber knowledge. Fromm is better than anyone in the game when it comes to mistakes and pre snap reads. Fields is in a much simpler offense with almost zero pre snap reads. He gets away with it at OSU because defenses there aren't fast enough to contain him. But you play in the SEC and see a D that you can't escape from when your one or two route options aren't open he gets eaten up.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:04 am to djsdawg
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Did you miss the long td pass vs Florida? Schemed him open
Is that the pass where the DB blew coverage and went to the middle of the field while his man went straight down the sideline? Look at that pass and see what happened. Even the Florida fans were down on Dean for blowing that play.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:28 am to AlaCowboy
Yep. We fooled their dbs. Pickens pulled dbs to him and left cager open space.
“We knew what coverage they were going to be in”
- Kirby smart
“We knew what coverage they were going to be in”
- Kirby smart
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:36 am to NCdawgfan34
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Ahhhhhh man it's crazy how many stupid ignorant people are on here to the X's and Os of football! Fooman I don't know how you can handle these football knowledge tards.
Jake hasn't been stellar this year but he has done enough with the shittiest recievers we have had in the last 8 years. Coley could do better but to be honest Kirby wants to control the ball and fricking play big boy football and guess what we are winning.
I mean damn we barely lost to a SCar team when we had 4 freaking turnovers. You shouldn't even be in the ballgame with 4 turnovers.
Fields has done really well for himself and good for him. Helps he plays Hellen Keller week in and week out and has a group of WRs that would make Stevie Wonder look good. He could not nor did he have a chance in UGA offense. That offense is as close as it gets to NFL caliber knowledge. Fromm is better than anyone in the game when it comes to mistakes and pre snap reads. Fields is in a much simpler offense with almost zero pre snap reads. He gets away with it at OSU because defenses there aren't fast enough to contain him. But you play in the SEC and see a D that you can't escape from when your one or two route options aren't open he gets eaten up.
You motherfrickers up in here
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:39 am to NCdawgfan34
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mean damn we barely lost to a SCar team when we had 4 freaking turnovers. You shouldn't even be in the ballgame with 4 turnovers.
That was an overall terrible post. Can you expound on this point of yours?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:22 am to NCdawgfan34
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But you play in the SEC and see a D that you can't escape from when your one or two route options aren't open he gets eaten up.
I saw all I needed to re. Fields and his ability to read a defense when he was called into the Auburn game last year, third qtr. inside the red zone, UGA up like 24-10.
The very thing you referenced happened. His options weren't open, he panicked and got happy feet, and he got his arse ate up and lost 20-plus yards.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:24 am to DawgRff
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You motherfrickers up in here
I hesitate to respond to some of those posts because I have no interest in perpetuating a Fromm hate fest. I still like the kid and his game a lot.
However, the level of delusion in some folks is hard to ignore. You can be critical of play and still be a fan. You can say someone needs to improve precisely because you want the best for them. Telling the truth does not make you a traitor.
Folks repeating empty rhetoric they've read online about Fromm being cerebral and being the best pre-snap QB does not make you sound knowledgeable. It makes you sound like you read GA msg boards and have conversation with GA fans. That's the shite fans say when they need to feel good about a QB but don't see enough on the field to justify it.
Same with saying the OSU QB's production is a product of the schedule. They obviously don't watch the games. They get their opinions from online Dawgfan communities and talking to Dawg fans. It's all showing a lack of insight.
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