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re: If Fields had stayed
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:40 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:40 am to DawgsLife
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quote:Then he's stuck back there with a rush in his face and takes a sack because he doesn't have the athletic ability to roll out and escape the rush long enough to be able to throw the ball away out of bounds Maybe? But he has been sacked 8 times....the fewest in college football except Air Force, I think? And they don't throw at all.
Jake got sacked 2 times last night for big lost yardage; he was -20 yards rushing for the night. He was 11/23 for a very poor QB rating of 35.5 with 163 yards and 1 TD. Basically he doesn't get sacked much because we mostly run the ball; we ran the ball 36 times.
We won last night because we have a playoff level defense and a superior FG kicker in Hotrod.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:50 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:04 am to Cobb Dawg
Whether he would start over Fromm is unknown but he wouldn’t be playing much better.
He’s a super star at tOSU because his receivers are fantastic. He can throw to open receivers all day and if they aren’t wide open, they are big and strong enough to come down with balls thrown up for grabs. Same is true for Bama and LSU.
Our receivers wouldn’t be magically better having Fields or anyone else behind center. Maybe Fields could run around long enough for them to get open, but that’s like rec league football and not something you can rely on consistently.
Fields had a lot of talent but his current success has as much to do with his supporting cast as it does him.
He’s a super star at tOSU because his receivers are fantastic. He can throw to open receivers all day and if they aren’t wide open, they are big and strong enough to come down with balls thrown up for grabs. Same is true for Bama and LSU.
Our receivers wouldn’t be magically better having Fields or anyone else behind center. Maybe Fields could run around long enough for them to get open, but that’s like rec league football and not something you can rely on consistently.
Fields had a lot of talent but his current success has as much to do with his supporting cast as it does him.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:06 am to Cobb Dawg
Obviously the offense would be better even with Coley calling plays. But the offense should be better right now despite playcalling.
Playcalling has improved over the season but the play hasn't, and I don't have any idea how to solve. Just going to have to lean on this defense.
Playcalling has improved over the season but the play hasn't, and I don't have any idea how to solve. Just going to have to lean on this defense.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:07 am to FooManChoo
At the very least, UGA would be able to run a deadly read option and have a more threatening RPO game.
When Fromm is off, UGA’s offense is fricked. There were receivers open all day yesterday. He just didn’t hit them.
When Fromm is off, UGA’s offense is fricked. There were receivers open all day yesterday. He just didn’t hit them.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:16 am to FooManChoo
Fields is more accurate downfield and much faster, so our offense would be noticeably better with fields.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:20 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:Possibly, but we haven’t used that type of offensive strategy much with Fromm this season even though he did a great job with it his freshman season. That could be a product of Coley, which I don’t think would be different with Fields here. Also, our receivers have struggled to reel in even the easy throws in the numbers consistently. Like I said, Fields isn’t going to automatically boost our ability to run good routes and catch the ball.
At the very least, UGA would be able to run a deadly read option and have a more threatening RPO game.
quote:There were a few yesterday and Fromm started hitting them as the game progressed. The two glaring examples where he didn’t were early on as he was struggling to adapt to the wet conditions and the glove.
When Fromm is off, UGA’s offense is fricked. There were receivers open all day yesterday. He just didn’t hit them.
I’m talking more about the entirety of the season, though. We’ve struggled getting leverage and separation, making it difficult for them to be targeted on quicker throws and less likely to be thrown to during Fromms progression tree if he doesn’t come back around to them.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:24 am to GurleyGirl
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This is good insight and I agree
But it's not good insight.The very next game our offense and Jake played very well
and our offense wasn't "predictable"at all
last night and even the 1st half vs Auburn.We threw the ball 5 times on 1st down and ran 6 times.
Folks really need to pay attention to what's going on in the game.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:29 am to FooManChoo
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our receivers have struggled to reel in even the easy throws in the numbers consistently.
We haven’t had that many easy drops, such as the Jackson one from yesterday.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:33 am to djsdawg
yea, been saying this since the off-season, fields would make coleys trash play calling "right" as kirby would say
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:37 am to jodeaux
Did you watch OU last night. It’s a good thing we didn’t sign Hazelwood. He was getting chippy with TCU players last night. Pushing them after the play and jawing in their faces.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:43 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Uh no. I'm not saying it's like the wishbone and the air raid but the differences are not minor. Nor am I saying Fields isn't the better talent so take your bull shite and apply it towards another poster.
They are minor. He's making many of the same throws he would make here. The RPOs are similar to what he ran here. They run the ball similar to the way we do. The only real differences are they have a competent OC and an elite level talent at QB.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:50 am to djsdawg
quote:He’s definitely faster, but I wouldn’t say he’s necessarily more accurate. He’s had a lot of good downfield throws but he’s been helped a lot, too, with his receivers, as a QB should expect. He had with his receivers yesterday what Fromm had the past 2 seasons: great route running, separation, and good hands to go up and grab the ball. Fields wouldn’t have that here this season, so I’d expect him to rely more on his legs, which wouldn’t be as effective without a good passing game.
Fields is more accurate downfield and much faster, so our offense would be noticeably better with fields.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:50 am to FooManChoo
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He can throw to open receivers all day and if they aren’t wide open, they are big and strong enough to come down with balls thrown up for grabs.
We had two wide open TDs yesterday and our QB wasn't close on either one. Their receivers also aren't any bigger or stronger than ours, looking at their depth chart. They just have a better, more accurate QB who is also not playing scared.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:50 am to djsdawg
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Fields is more accurate downfield and much faster, so our offense would be noticeably better with fields.
Yep, Clemson started Lawrence as a Freshman over Kelly Bryant and they won a NC. Bryant moved on and hasn't been effective with Missouri. Kirby chose to stick with the less talented Fromm over Fields. But yea, Fields definitely didn't help himself with his attitude. Fields moved onto OSU which is arguably the best balanced team in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:54 am to FooManChoo
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He’s definitely faster, but I wouldn’t say he’s necessarily more accurate. He’s had a lot of good downfield throws but he’s been helped a lot, too, with his receivers, as a QB should expect. He had with his receivers yesterday what Fromm had the past 2 seasons: great route running, separation, and good hands to go up and grab the ball. Fields wouldn’t have that here this season, so I’d expect him to rely more on his legs, which wouldn’t be as effective without a good passing game.
The levels you reach to defend Fromm over shite garbage play never ceases to amaze me. Receivers had separation yesterday and he couldn't make the throw.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:56 am to FooManChoo
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Possibly, but we haven’t used that type of offensive strategy much with Fromm this season even though he did a great job with it his freshman season. That could be a product of Coley, which I don’t think would be different with Fields here. Also, our receivers have struggled to reel in even the easy throws in the numbers consistently. Like I said, Fields isn’t going to automatically boost our ability to run good routes and catch the ball.
If you don’t think Fields running ability would open things up significantly, you can’t be helped.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:57 am to FooManChoo
Fields likely hits the open wrs fromm has been missing.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:02 am to GurleyGirl
I thought Bryant was lighting it up before his injury.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:20 am to GurleyGirl
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Jake got sacked 2 times last night for big lost yardage; he was -20 yards rushing for the night.
Your post (To me) made it sound like he gets sacked a lot. he doesn't. Again. The fewest sacks in college football with teams that throw the ball at all. One game does not make a trend or something to hang a hat on. It is an anomaly.
quote:In a downpour. A HEAVY deluge. He couldn't get comfortable. Started with a glove...then took it back off because he couldn't get used to it. the ball was coming out of his hand awkwardly.
He was 11/23 for a very poor QB rating of 35.5 with 163 yards and 1 TD.
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Basically he doesn't get sacked much because we mostly run the ball; we ran the ball 36 times.
We ran the ball a lot yesterday because of the rain. I mean we don't throw the ball around a ton.
We are 81st in the country in number of passes thrown. That alone does not account for the lack of sacks. We are the best in number of sacks allowed.
Look at it this way. We are 81st in the number of passes thrown (Somewhere around 50 have thrown fewer passes) and there are 130 or so teams with more sacks than us.
To dismiss the lack of sacks like that is wrong, and a disservice to the job our OLine has done this year. More often than not nobody even comes close to Fromm and he has time in the pocket.
quote:True. I won't argue that point....so I'm not sure what the point was in bringing it up.
We won last night because we have a playoff level defense and a superior FG kicker in Hotrod.
I am not arguing that our offense is great, or even very good. I am arguing that pointing fingers at the OC and Fromm is an oversimplification of the situation.
Our fan base loves to point fingers and place blame. I remember when Aaron Murray's yard was rolled. Sometimes I hate our fan base.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:21 am to djsdawg
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We haven’t had that many easy drops, such as the Jackson one from yesterday.
We have had a lot of misses that our receivers from the last couple of years would have pulled in.
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