re: Fields will Redshirt (Official Prediction)

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Unless it helps you win a big game, right?

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Correct. If you have to burn the redshirt to win a game, burn that motherfricker. But not for "practice" or becuase Fromm's shoe fell off.

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You mean losing his 5th year? Good luck with that.

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QB is one of the few positions where leaving early isn’t as much of a guarantee of success as othe positions. Also, do you think he’ll be a top rounder early if his first two seasons are spend on mop up duty or with limited reps? He has to beat Fromm to have a chance IMO.

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How do you know what to practice to improve on your own time if you don't face live bullets and make mistakes during games?

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I don’t disagree with any of this. My point all along is how does it benefit Fields or UGA to run him out there for reps if we have a championship caliber starter? If Fromm goes down I don’t know that Radom series or mop up duty changes Fields performance under pressure.

This is all academic of course. I just want spacing between two potentially great players so we get the best out of both and they both get the maximum time allowed to be UGA QB’s.

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This is getting ridiculous.

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What, having a civilized debate? You're right, this is the GSB. This discussion should have devolved into an ad hominem feud by now.

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It is in no way harder for them in practice than in the game.

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I'm not saying real snaps aren't meaningful. Jake Fromm going on the road and beating a ranked ND squad (out number in their own stadium, need I remind you ) is undoubtedly the driving factor for going as far as we did. That experience cannot be practiced. And before you reply, "he couldn't have done it without the experience against App. ST.," this scenario is barring injuries.

What I'm saying is, the type of snaps JF1 will be getting, at the end of the game when we are up by 3 scores against FCS teams and Tennessee, aren't as meaningful as you think. Those are low pressure snaps against inferior talent. Those snaps absolutely can be practiced. And they are.

I just don't see how trading a year eligibility for those types of snaps benefits our program.

Despite what the future seers in this thread would have you believe, no one knows how long JF1 will stay. I'm willing to wager meaningless mop up snaps for the very remote chance of an extra year of eligibility. Despite the odds.

/essay

Tua had 53 pass attempts in the regular season.

15 rush attempts (I don't know how many of those were sacks).

They beat us in overtime.

We can agree to disagree about how much work is enough over the course of a season to be ready to lead a team.

Fromm had 15 pass attempts leading up to the Notre Dame game.
@ Notre Dame, he had 29 attempts in what was his worst game of the season. We won by 1 point.

There isn't a lot of margin of error. Every rep helps.

Cheers

Your reasoning sure would have come in handy for uga last year. If tua was essentially redshirted, I doubt saban plays him vs uga, and if he did pull the shirt, the reduced load of practice reps and removal of live reps would have rendered him less prepared to do enough to beat us. Now, why do you think smart is gonna ignore that? Saban was no dummy and smart has learned everything from him.

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Now, it's your turn to make an actual argument how any of the other plays were meaningful. Or even how any of them where meaningful, for that matter.

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The team only has to win by 1 point. Anything that gets you 1 extra point is an advantage. No?
There is no practice that can replace live repititions. Even mopup duty is better than practice because 4 to 5 opponents are trying to kill you on each snap.

Unless you have a comment from Tua stating that those reps are meaningless,you have to presume that he reviewed them with coaches and they pointed out things which helped his development. Whether it is a presnap read, identifying a coverage disguise, going through progressions, carrying out a fake after a handoff, and form (footwork in the pocket and on the move).

How argumentative do you have to be to persist on a stance that film review of yourself is not productive? Have you played a sport? Did you ever watch film on yourself?

Besides helping to win games in 2018 for Fields if he is ever called upon, the offseason is much better having that film. All of these QBs have personal coaches. It is difficult for a personal coach to give meaningful advice without any game film to review. Mechanics often break down with pressure and stress. This is an 8 month advantage for Fields next off season to work specified drills to correct things that take multiple reps. My goal is to get him better as fast as possible. I'm more worried about winning games in 2018 and 2019. I will worry about 2023 later. Hopefully, a redshirt opportunity for 2019 could happen if Fromm stays healthy. But if Fromm has a knee injury, I want Fields at his best in 2019. A great offseason helps that end result.

Nobody ever claimed Fields didn’t have talent or that he wouldn’t excel. In fact the whole argument for redshirting was so he would have MORE time as a starter since he had so much potential.

He looked great yesterday. So did our 3rd sting RB against the 2 defense. The backup QB ALWAYS shines on GDay.

That being said..I don’t see any way the CKS will be able to keep Fields on the sideline this year or Fields beating out Fromm any time soon so we’ll burn Fields first year watching Fromm play and Fields getting late game snaps handing the ball off to kill the clock.

I doesn’t impact my life one bit if Fields plays this next year...so I’m not sure why I need to “accept” any thing. I want UGA to win games and don’t care who the QB is.

My position has always been that it’s a waste burning a year of eligibility for Fields when he’s not the starter. Fanboys wanting to see him run for a first down doesn’t qualify as a good reason IMO.

By saying we’ll need him to win close games you’re insinuating he’s the better QB. If that’s the case he should start and it’s all a moot point.

I'm not suggesting that Fields is better. My position is that playing two great QBs with slightly different skill sets puts defenses in a bind.

Fromm might be more effective against some good defenses and Fields might be more effective against other good defenses.

So you want a talent like Fields to sit on the bench for a minimum of 2 years?

Yea,would love to see how that works