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Does Kirby work in JT Daniels against UK in two weeks?

Posted on 10/19/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 2:32 pm
I think he has to do this because IF we get back to the SECG, we are going to need that option.

It was waaay too easy for Bama to knock those balls down at the line.

I believe Gary Daniels even mentioned Bama practiced it specifically because of Stetsons height.

Posted by RedPants
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:22 pm to
He has no choice. But he's stubborn, so who knows.
Posted by Griffindawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:29 pm to
What is the deal with Daniels?!?! I’m losing my mind. Give us a morsel of info Kirby.
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:37 pm to
What is lost on many is that several of those balls get knocked down even with a 6'3 qb.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:40 pm to
Let’s assume for arguments sake that daniels was available for bama if we needed him.

Bennett has played pretty damn well for us so far. Hadn’t lost a game. We were leading at half time.

Given how Kirby handled fromm over Eason and Fields do you really think he was gonna pull Bennett for daniels?

It wouldn’t have been fair to either of them really, our D wasn’t stopping them in the 4th. I think if Kirby doesn’t do some work with daniels against Kentucky (and daniels is healthy enough to play), then we all have a legitimate gripe.

Until then a lot has happened to pigeon hole ya into this QB situation
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:43 pm to
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What is lost on many is that several of those balls get knocked down even with a 6'3 qb.



Maybe maybe not, but for sure having to throw the ball up at a trajectory that cause it to sail over a wide open burton hurts us. A 6’3-6’4 guy has a much better view and angle of those passes
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:59 pm to
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He has no choice. But he's stubborn


Ever consider daniels knee still isn't ready for full action? I mean idk if it is or not, but to automatically blame Kirby if jt isn't playing seems disingenuous
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:05 pm to
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Given how Kirby handled fromm over Eason and Fields do you really think he was gonna pull Bennett for daniels?


That presumes that such a move was even possible.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:11 pm to
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That presumes that such a move was even possible.


What do you mean?

My first sentence was saying just hypothetically if daniels knee was 100%
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:32 pm to
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Ever consider daniels knee still isn't ready for full action? I mean idk if it is or not, but to automatically blame Kirby if jt isn't playing seems disingenuous


Maybe, but do you trust this staff’s quarterback judgement? I don’t, and as a result I think it’s equally possible Daniels has been ready to go for three weeks and Kirby hasn’t been giving him a shot because Stetson is playing “well enough”

If we had a good track record with QB decisions, this would be a much quieter topic.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:48 pm to
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Maybe, but do you trust this staff’s quarterback judgement


I know I'm going to open a can or works, but why do you not trust the staffs judgment with qbs?
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:57 pm to
Because they thought Jake Fromm was better than Justin Fields and they thought D’Wan Mathis was better than Stetson Bennett. We tend to start the lesser quarterback more times than not since Kirby took over. Remember, we started Grayson Lambert over Jacob Eason for the first game as well.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:09 pm to
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What is lost on many is that several of those balls get knocked down even with a 6'3 qb.
stafford had two or three batted down by Jacksonville yesterday.
Posted by Matlock
Perry, GA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:10 pm to
What do we know about Daniels? Besides having an awesome last name, he was first seen at practice without a knee brace this week.

Anyone who has had to wear a brace for an injury can appreciate you aren’t 100% the day or week you take it off. While a brace provides support, it also limits the mobility of whatever it is bracing by design.

If we played Daniels and he hurt his knee and we lost the game, people would be calling for Coach Smart’s head for throwing away a 5 Str quarterback during a season which might get cancelled. Further compounding the narrative that he can’t manage QBs and possibly running off future QB recruits.

But what do I know? I’m just a lawyer and certainly don’t get paid millions of dollars to draw up plays and manage a football team. (And I would be woefully unqualified for such a job, too)
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:22 pm to
I’m not denying that there’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t element to these decisions at times, but you can always come up with a million reasons not to make a move. That’s why we stuck with Fromm over Fields, and that bit us long term.

I don’t want to watch more top flight quarterbacks walk out the door so we can have four more years of Jake Fromm and Stetson Bennett.

I’m not saying there’s no chance that the reason Daniels hasn’t played is because of his knee. Could be. I’m saying I’m second guessing this staff’s quarterback judgement until they’ve proven they can make the right decision even if it’s a hard one that means benching a “good guy”. Time will tell the answer to whether they’re making the right call.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:23 pm to
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Because they thought Jake Fromm was better than Justin Fields and they thought D’Wan Mathis was better than Stetson Bennett


I still think if Mathis gets some experience he'll likely be better than Stetson. And if he is he'll be much better.

Not sure we'll ever know - well, unless he transfers.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:29 pm to
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Because they thought Jake Fromm was better than Justin Fields


In 2018 fromm was pretty fricking good, in fact he had a better season that burrow. You don't pull a guy doing everything right just because the backup had another star by their name and can run more. I do think in tbe lsu game we should've played fields a lot more, but overall you can't really justify sitting fromm for a true frshman that honestly looked dreadful in half his pass attempts. 2019 should have been a full out open competition to win the job but fields cried and left so we never got to see it.

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they thought D’Wan Mathis was better than Stetson Bennett


For all we know mathis did look better and earned the job. What is your response to the coaches seeing mathis was lost and pulling him before halftime?

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we started Grayson Lambert over Jacob Eason for the first game as well


It was a brand new team with a new staff so we started the senior with years of playing experience with a plan to work Eason in. It worked. Stafford didn't start his first game either but everyone in the world knew stafford and Eason would be starting within 2-3 games
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:32 pm to
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What is lost on many is that several of those balls get knocked down even with a 6'3 qb


Being short is just part of the issue. He doesn't have a quick release and also has a tendency to stare down receivers.All of those things contribute to the batted down passes.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:41 pm to
JTD isn’t and hasn’t been healthy. He had complications after his first knee surgery and had still had issues after the follow up scope. Hopefully he is ready at some point, but he isn’t as of now.

Kirby has about as bad a track record with QBs as it’s possible to have, but even he isn’t dumb enough to play Stetson Bennett over a healthy Daniels. Hopefully we are in a better spot after the BYE week
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:42 pm to
Not all athletics recover completely from ACL surgery and Daniels might one of those players.
And honestly I would rather see us develop these young guys aka Mathis and Beck.
Mathis has the measurables to become a legitimate dual-threat QB like Bennett but with NFL height and arm strength. He should get game reps from here on out because we are going to need him if we are to face Alabama again in the SECCG.
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