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re: Do we think Fromm is coming back?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:44 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:44 am to GurleyGirl
Right now, most draft services have him rounds 2 to 3, which is anywhere from $8m to $1.5M . If Tua decides to not go for whatever reason, then his stock goes up more. Tough decision.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:50 am to VoxDawg
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Robertson should have caught that pass in the end zone but it was short also.
If you think #11 was the problem on that play, I don't know what to tell you...
#11 wasnt the problem on that play.
But we are comparing #11 to NFL QBs and whether Fromm should make the jump now or later. Fromm has a lot of skills. But he isnt a complete NFL passer yet.
The question is if he will get better with the tools and experience at his disposal at UGA? Or holding a clipboard with all of his personal time devoted to getting better as a pro. Personally, I still think more game experience will help him. He still has room to grow at the collegiate level and that will translate better in the NFL.
Keep in mind that Joe Burrow is 23 years old. Fromm is 21. Experience matters at the QB position.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:59 am to Peter Buck
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Right now, most draft services have him rounds 2 to 3,
I like Fromm but that seems high to me? Idk how accurate these things tend to be, though.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:08 am to meansonny
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But we are comparing #11 to NFL QBs and whether Fromm should make the jump now or later. Fromm has a lot of skills. But he isnt a complete NFL passer yet.
I agree completely. He's got raw talent and some great ability to analyze the play, but he's definitely not ready for prime time, as evidenced by failing to see open receivers at key moments last night, and in the SECCG. Hell, even the booth crew caught it in multiple instances for both games.
We should've scored at least 45 last night.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:14 am to FinleyStreet
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I like Fromm but that seems high to me? Idk how accurate these things tend to be, though.
The top 3 rounds get guaranteed money. He is projected as the #4 QB. Based on team need, thry have him in 2/3. If Tua is not in, he moves up.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:39 am to Peter Buck
I would assume that a lot of his decision will be based off of what Tua does. If Tua stays you could make the argument that Fromm could be the 2nd QB off the board behind Burrow (before Herbert and Eason). Where as next year he would be up against Tua, Lawrence, and Fields and there is no way he is drafted above those 3.
You know GMs are going to love Fromm’s character and leadership and if he combines well I could see a team with a vet QB taking him and letting him develop for 2 years before handing him the reigns.
I really hope he stays but the financial aspect prob tells him to leave.
You know GMs are going to love Fromm’s character and leadership and if he combines well I could see a team with a vet QB taking him and letting him develop for 2 years before handing him the reigns.
I really hope he stays but the financial aspect prob tells him to leave.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:44 am to ugafan426
Tua would be an absolute moron to stay. That guy needs his brain examined if he decides to stay.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:03 am to ugafan426
After the combine, there is no way Fromm goes above Herbert or Eason.
I think Tua comes back. He want be ready by pro day and this type of injury, will make it tough to take him n the top 5 picks. Plus he got injured last year and then again this year , befits they final injury. That’s 3 in 12 months. He needs a year of good health.
I would not draft Fromm until late 3rd round or later. There is a saying about QBs, hit the door in HS, the doorknob in College, and the key hole in the pros... he’s just doesn’t have a keyhole arm. And if you don’t you need to be able to move better than average, once again he’s limited.
I think Tua comes back. He want be ready by pro day and this type of injury, will make it tough to take him n the top 5 picks. Plus he got injured last year and then again this year , befits they final injury. That’s 3 in 12 months. He needs a year of good health.
I would not draft Fromm until late 3rd round or later. There is a saying about QBs, hit the door in HS, the doorknob in College, and the key hole in the pros... he’s just doesn’t have a keyhole arm. And if you don’t you need to be able to move better than average, once again he’s limited.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:07 am to Buzz Killington
I think he goes. hope he stays.
ETA: I don't think any of this year's quarterbacks are going to be good pros. Burrow does not strike me as a guy who will play well in the pros.
Maybe someone will surprise me.
ETA: I don't think any of this year's quarterbacks are going to be good pros. Burrow does not strike me as a guy who will play well in the pros.
Maybe someone will surprise me.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:09 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:10 am to Kneehigh
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Could you imagine Fromm playing in the snow?
I think that'll be a huge issue for NFL scouts. If he can't throw in some rain in 50 degree weather against Kentucky, then how in the hell is he going to win a playoff game in Lambeau?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:11 am to HTDawg
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Tua would be an absolute moron to stay. That guy needs his brain examined if he decides to stay.
Well its not Tua's decision.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:39 am to devils1854
Tua HAS to go. If he comes back and doesn't look as mobile after the injury he could drop. The kid gets hurt every year so another injury isn't gonna help. I wouldn't touch him early rounds.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:33 pm to VoxDawg
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If you think #11 was the problem on that play, I don't know what to tell you...
A couple of compliments for Fromm on that play.
1) he was rolling out. Helps the receivers get separation. Freezes some defenders in their responsibilities. Fromm isnt consistent on these throws. It is something that he needs to work on. But it should have worked on this play.
2) fromm put a ton of air on the throw. That is actually a good thing. Yes, the throw was short (partially due to the trajectory). But putting that much air on the ball allows the receiver to play the ball. Too many of Fromms overthrows dont allow the receiver to make any play on the ball. Either it hits them in stride or it is 10 yards too long. The completion percentage on that is much worse than putting air on that kind of deep throw.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:36 pm to VoxDawg
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you think #11 was the problem on that play, I don't know what to tell you..
Are saying they were good throws?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:51 pm to djsdawg
Watched a ton of college and pro football lately, it's rare that even the great ones hit their mark more than 50% of the time, great WRs make up for it.
Hell, a bunch of burrows pases are off or not in stride but they catch them much like his sideline hail Mary's that seem to hit their mark.
As for the announcers they circled a wr twice and said they were open when there was a db literally standing in Pickens shadow. They were idiots last night.
Hell, a bunch of burrows pases are off or not in stride but they catch them much like his sideline hail Mary's that seem to hit their mark.
As for the announcers they circled a wr twice and said they were open when there was a db literally standing in Pickens shadow. They were idiots last night.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:02 pm to lewis and herschel
Fromm's post Sugar Bowl interview convinced me that he is gone. I wish Jake the best. Maybe some team will draft him highly. The best possible outcome would be 1st or 2nd rounds late in the round to a good team.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:09 pm to lewis and herschel
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They were idiots last night.
Agreed. But
quote:playing DB is about leverage. Being on the right hip when the route is breaking left is an open target for an accurate QB. And in the NFL, they do make those throws. I dont watch much NFL, but it is nuts seeing Russell Wilson and Drew Brees hit those tiny windows 30-40 yards away from the QB with traffic in between (getting the throw up and down).
there was a db literally standing in Pickens shadow.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:18 pm to lewis and herschel
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Hell, a bunch of burrows pases are off or not in stride but they catch them much like his sideline hail Mary's that seem to hit their mark.
I don’t think so. Most burrow throws are great, but he is a freak.
It’s just frustrating to watch Robertson’s freshman high lights. Seeing that qb hit him in stride downfield over and over, which Fromm just can’t do.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:22 pm to djsdawg
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It’s just frustrating to watch Robertson’s freshman high lights. Seeing that qb hit him in stride downfield over and over, which Fromm just can’t do.
To be fair, Robertson going against Pacxii DBs is a lot different than what he is facing the past 2 seasons. Jams at the line force him in the slot. And even then, he struggles with physical DBs and finding separation. And when he is open, it is still 50/50 that he holds onto the ball.
Some players cant make the transition to the physicality that we face. Robertson certainly has struggled here.
Edit to add:is there any chance that his injuries are impeding him?
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:25 pm to meansonny
When he is open downfield, Fromm is consistently short to him. Can’t blame that on dbs.
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