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re: Do we think Fromm is coming back?

Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by grey
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Here's the throw to DRob, and Todd Blackledge sums it up:

Should he have caught it? Yes.
Was it underthrown? Yes.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:44 pm to
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I don't have the stats on this one by any means but anecdotally from my recollection it seems like his overthrows have frequently rifled in with very little air/arc to them. I wonder if this is a habit due to feeling like not having enough arm to get it where he wants?

By no means am I a Fromm hater, but I will definitely say that his accuracy has left a lot to be desired, even on completions. At least this year (but I seem to recall it happening last year too?) he frequently tackles the receiver with the catch, where a better on-target throw would have led to more yards if not a TD.

If he returns, that's probably the area I most want to see improvement on from him specifically... learn your receivers, figure out how fast they actually are, and put the ball where they need it. I understand that sometimes you can't throw it in the perfect place because of defenders or field positioning, etc... but in the absence of those things, really hoping for that to not be a recurring issue.


The post route he threw to 1 out of the end zone had air on it, but had too much arm. There was another that was too flat. His worst throw was the cross to the TE. Pretty sure Fromm saw the man trailing, but didn’t see the LB drop into some sort of combo zone thing. Could have been an int if the TE didn’t make a play.

The skinny post in the end zone he didn’t throw on the first time , I agree with the read, the safety was robbing it, the flag was there to the TE but he didn’t put enough touch on it. Almost looked like he hurried the throw.

The flea flicker, he had to shift to the left to avoid pressure and still dropped it in the window. Was a much better throw than he gets credit for.

The curl he overthrew is hard to know for sure. You throw the curl before the WR breaks. That was a long throw. Could be the WR broke it shorter, could be Fromm overthrew it. Timing routes need both players doing it right.

The deep TD drop was a great play by Fromm to see him slip open and a cannon throw on the move. 16 has to make that catch every single time.

The TD pass to 5 was perfect.

The fade to 1 earlier in the game was a very high level throw. So were a lot of those outs.

Fromm missed some passes, but overall had a nice game.

I’d say the two biggest things the pro scouts would knock him for would be deep ball accuracy consistency and the flip shite he does with the ball. He has the arm for the deep ball, so it would come down to timing.
His pros are leadership, high football IQ, and the ability to make good progressions. Tua and Burrow are definitely better overall. Eason has a better arm, but it is going to come down to how Eason scores on the intangibles.

The question for Fromm is if he can improve his stock any more at the College level. If he can not substantially he may as well go now and get paid and spend more time learning and improving.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:50 pm to
And making money to support his new family.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:53 pm to
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The TD pass to 5 was perfect.


Can't remember who pinged me but the comment was:

That ball caught Matt Landers...

Re: the rest, my comments were specific to more of the season as a whole. I thought Fromm looked as good in the bowl game if not better than he had all season. It was clear that the bowl practices were put to good use.

I 100% agree with the assessment though... it comes down to what does Fromm believe benefits him the most. 1 more year of consistent playing experience, or making it a full-time gig and hoping to get on the right roster with the right staff who believes in your ability.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
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The TD pass to 5 was perfect.


I'm not a Landers apologist. He makes so many mistakes.

But I see his athleticism and just gush if he can put the hands together to go with it.

That catch was exciting and frustrating at the same time. Exciting because virtually nothing seems to go right for the kid on Saturdays, and that was a big time play in the game for us. Frustrating because he let the ball get in on his chest for no reason.

Landers is physical enough to do all of the things that we struggled with this season (get off the line, get behind the defender, create separation). But running proper routes and catching with his hands seem so foreign. I hope he can put together a solid season. He would be the type to make an NFL team if he could be considered coachable.
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
478 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:45 pm to
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His post game interview made me feel as if he's leaving.

Some Georgia reporters are saying not to overthink his comments. He needs to come back. He can be the 5th QB this year or maybe the 3rd next year.

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I think he could improve his draft with our incoming talent at receiver for next year however.

Agreed, obviously we see what Pickens will be like next year.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
1297 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:46 pm to
Fromm is not getting drafted before Fields of Lawrence next year so 3rd at best. 4th if Tua is dumb enough to stay in college another season and avoids injury.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Here's the throw to DRob, and Todd Blackledge sums it up:

Should he have caught it? Yes.
Was it underthrown? Yes.



Only a troll like peter would claim otherwise
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:23 pm to
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Only a troll like peter would claim otherwise



You are a cancer to this board
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:31 pm to
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don't get to claim the "In the Arena" privilege, but my line of thinking is that if the ball hits the WR in the hands, then it's the WR's job to make the catch. (Especially with both feet on the ground).


Yes. I said the same. The claims are not mutually exclusive. Don’t let peter the troll mislead you.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:34 pm to
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You are a cancer to this board


The fact that some idiots worship a troll like you is a much bigger cancer
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:43 pm to
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Cager ran great routes. But they weren't what usually are referred to as timing routes. He wasnt running a bunch of crosses or flags.
He'd run curls, digs, backshoulders,and the occasional go route.


I agree. But he also made tight curls and sharp cuts. that's how a WR creates space. That's what the other WRs lacked until this game. I noticed it early.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:54 pm to
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Only a troll like peter would claim otherwise


Yes, he should have caught the pass. But, it was underthrown.
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:10 pm to
Fromm should come back.

I understand why some players go early but Fromm’s family is not hurting financially. He should come back bc he always wanted to be a Dawg. If he leaves as a junior, later in his life, imo, he’ll look back & regret heading off early to the NFL, which is a job — one without the camaraderie & collegiate traditions/rivalries.

Most pros look back fondly on their college time as their favorite years of playing football. Why go early Fromm? Money? To avoid a senior year injury?

Do what you love. And he loves being a Dawg. Damn anyone who convinces him he’s better off leaving. Especially for money.
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
689 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:49 am to
Agree. Grimm's best asset is a QB is between his ears. He is a master at game planning and an outstanding leader. In the NFL, understanding defenses and knowing where the ball should go are incredibly important.

But.... does he have the physical attributes to be a great NFL QB? Does he have a big arm? Is he insanely accurate? I hate it but no.

Maybe professional coaches can develop him more physically as he certainly has passion for the game.

Whatever he decides to do, he has been a great QB and DGD. I think he should come back for one more year. He and Pickens impressed at the Sugar and now he has other WR studs too
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:24 am to
Nicely stated.
Fromm could be an outstanding QB coach or sports commentator.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
958 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:02 am to
Only if he thinks he can improve his stock significantly.
His receiving corp, and his opinion of the offensive coaching staff will weigh heavily on his decision.
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