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re: The Odyssey - Movie Discussion - Spoilers
Posted by devils1854 on 7/18/26 at 10:29 am to iwyLSUiwy
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That’s the Laestrygoneans it’s a pretty iconic part of the book. They are giant cannibals. The armor is off like with Agamemnon but they destroyed and killed all of their fleet and men outside of Odysseus’ ship and men.
I honestly had that mixed up. I thought after they left Troy, they were successful in raiding the Cicones, and left to the Lotus Eaters, then on to Circe. I understand Nolan didnt want to show Odysseus in a bad light so he left out that whole part. I was thinking those warriors were from that part of the poem since nothing was really explained, and since the Lotus Eaters werent put in the story either and the Lotus flower was merged with Calypso since once again Nolan didnt want to show that Odysseus stayed for 7 years on his own accord. He needed to be a good dude.
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Yea even before the movie was released people didn’t like the Damon casting. I get it. I didn’t mind him but I get it. 100% disagree that Bernthals character would be a better Odysseus. It’s obviously been a while since you read the book but Odysseus wasn’t famous for being hard and a battle warrior. He was both of those things but Achilles fit that description better and Odysseus was more famous for his wisdom. That’s part of the reason why Athene had affection for him.
I was overracting a little, but Damon just looks like a good guy, and not someone thats less black and white. Thats why I said Berenthal, or anyone with a little more of an edge, would have been better....but once again, Nolan had to portray Odysseus as a good guy.
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Just finished my re-read of The Odyssey last night. He strolled in and in about one line Circe agrees to turn the men back in the poem. It’s pretty much universally agreed that this was a highlight of the film. I can’t help if you if you didn’t like that part.
To me this was the biggest misstep. Hermes gives Odysseus a white plant to counter act Circe's magic/herbs, and Circe knows the legend that there will be someone that will show up that she wont be able to change. You put that in the film, and I'll understand the short conversation.
I understand Nolan wanted to downplay the Gods, but if you have Athena in the movie, there should have been room for Hermes, since he did more than just his actions with Circe.
re: The Odyssey - Movie Discussion - Spoilers
Posted by devils1854 on 7/18/26 at 3:20 am to iwyLSUiwy
This movie was one of the worst theater experiences Ive ever had in my life. Nolan is the most overrated director in Hollywood today. He knows spectacle, but absolutely misses it with actual human emotion.
Within 10 minutes of the movie, we have two characters speaking to each other in which is supposed to be a heart felt moment. You get one character speaking a line and you get a close up shot, and you get this loud blast of sound. Then it cuts to the other character. Another line of dialogue, and another loud blast of sound. What is the point? Youre not getting me to sympathize with either character with the forced, and out of place score.
We get a battle scene that I still dont know where it is in the work by Homer. Just a bunch of guys in medieval fantasy armor destroying Odysseus and his men and forcing them to flee. Seriously, where in the Odyssey is this from? I havent read the story in a while, but I dont remember this anywhere.
Matt Damon is absolutely miscast as Odysseus. He is not a sympathetic character. He is a great warrior that does what is necessary for himself, and yet, we get a soft Matt Damon, playing Matt Damon, in a Matt Damon movie. Jon Bernthal as The Punisher is closer to who Odysseus is that whatever Nolan and Damon decided the character should be for the movie.
Where is Hermes?
One of the most famous parts of the Odyssey is the interaction with Circe, and yet Matt Damon strolls in and after about three lines of dialogue, Circe agrees to turn his men back into humans and everything is good?
Why the hell is Agememnon wearing fantasy armor while the rest of the whole cast wearing something at least a little more similar to the Bronze Age period? Also, why is Menelaus and Telemachus dressed like they are about to speak to Little John in Sherwood Forest?
Maybe explain why the cows(of Helios) on the island are off limits. Instead its a 5 minute scene that ends with the whole remaining crew being killed. That kind of seems important. Maybe say why.
Where the frick is Hermes?
For the most part, I actually enjoyed the finale. Tom Holland rounds into the role of Telemachus pretty well, and Robert Pattinson as Antinous is a solid villain in the end. It just would have been nice to see the last inquiry of Odysseus by Penelope. That always felt like a vital part of the end of the story.
Also, Elliot Page’s character is not there to take the place of Achilles. We are shown that the character is not much of a fighter, and that’s why she is left to “guard” the Trojan Horse, and to die. In the Odyssey, when Odysseus goes to the underworld, he speaks to a number of characters from Achilles to Agamemnon to Ajax, even to Hercules. The Page character is there to put a link to Antinous in the third act. It has nothing to do with replacing Achilles.
Nolan is good at spectacle but when to comes to human interaction, he fails most of the time.
This was not a good movie at all.
re: Soccer fans help me out: Professional Leagues and Teams
Posted by devils1854 on 7/13/26 at 9:02 am to GentleJackJones
When it comes to tv in America
EPL-NBC/USA/Peacock
La Liga-ESPN+ with a few ESPN family networks broadcasting the big matches
Bundesliga-ESPN+
Serie A-Paramount+
Ligue 1-None
Scottish-Paramount +
Netherlands-ESPN+
English Championship/League 1/League 2-Paramount+
EPL-NBC/USA/Peacock
La Liga-ESPN+ with a few ESPN family networks broadcasting the big matches
Bundesliga-ESPN+
Serie A-Paramount+
Ligue 1-None
Scottish-Paramount +
Netherlands-ESPN+
English Championship/League 1/League 2-Paramount+
re: Soccer fans help me out: Professional Leagues and Teams
Posted by devils1854 on 7/13/26 at 8:40 am to GentleJackJones
The EPL has two seperate tv deals with England and the United States that are worth billions. Ad in deals with many other countries across the globe that are in the 100s of millions.
There’s less than a dozen clubs across Europe that can compare in player spending to even the worst teams in the EPL year in and year out.
2025/26
EPL-3.53 billion
Serie A-1.23 billion
La Liga-656 million
Ligue 1-641 million
Saudi-492 million
English Championship-357 million
LINK
This gulf in spending between the EPL and other leagues is showing up in depth. Since the rules changed two years ago and eliminated Champions League clubs are no longer pushed to the Europa League playoffs, the EPL has won both thr Europa and Conference League championships in back to back years and it’s really not been close. The EPL does not dominate the Champions League since clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, and Bayern Munich can match the spending done by the top EPL clubs.
There’s less than a dozen clubs across Europe that can compare in player spending to even the worst teams in the EPL year in and year out.
2025/26
EPL-3.53 billion
Serie A-1.23 billion
La Liga-656 million
Ligue 1-641 million
Saudi-492 million
English Championship-357 million
LINK
This gulf in spending between the EPL and other leagues is showing up in depth. Since the rules changed two years ago and eliminated Champions League clubs are no longer pushed to the Europa League playoffs, the EPL has won both thr Europa and Conference League championships in back to back years and it’s really not been close. The EPL does not dominate the Champions League since clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, and Bayern Munich can match the spending done by the top EPL clubs.
re: Evil dead burn
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 12:34 pm to cfish140
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Check out Undertone from this year it’s on hbo. And Keeper and also Together from last year. 2 sleepers I thought were great.
I plan on watching Hokum soon, heard great things. I agree on your low scores for Black Phone 2 and The Monkey which were universally loved, but on the flip side I’m the only person I know who fricking loved Wolf Man
Undertone isnt a movie that I wont see because of personal reasons...I think Oz Perkins is hugely overrated. I dont think he's made a good horror movie since The Backcoats Daughter, so Ive never really wanted to watch Keeper. I might get to it eventually... Im not a fan of body horror, so Ive never really wanted to watch Together. I dont think I ever watched the full trailer. I got the jist of the movie early and decided that was not for me.
Wolf Man was too dark to me. I moved my settings all on my tv and nothing really helped. I just couldnt see shite.
re: Garth Brooks is the most out of touch artist I’ve ever seen
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 2:47 am to bigpapamac
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Garth is a weirdo who helped kill country music and turn it into the pop country nonsense we have today.
So what you're saying is that there was no "pop country" before Garth?
What about Chet Atkins and the Nashville Sound that permeated throughout country music in the late 50s and 60s that helped to introduced Outlaw Country with Waylon and Willie.
Or the disco country that lasted through the mid-70s until the mid to late 80s that caused the neo-traditional sound from Randy Travis, Keith Whitley, and others to populate the charts.
Learn your country music history. "Pop country" has had many sounds in the past 70 years since there was a delineation between country and western.
edit:Not sure if you know this, but Alabama was considered "pop country" when they started in the late 70s to the 80s. Compare what they were putting out compared to the giants at the time(Jones, Merle, Goslin, Conway). The electric guitar with popular musical arrangements at the time was nowhere close to what traditional country was.
re: Evil dead burn
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 1:54 am to kjntgr
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And also your faves from 2025?
93/100 Sinners
86/100 It Ends
85/100 Weapons
80/100 The Ugly Stepsister
77/100 Predator:Badlands
75/100 Predator:Killer of Killers
73/100 Companion
71/100 Final Destionation Bloodlines
65/100 VHS:Halloween
63/100 Night of the Reaper
63/100 Until Dawn
62/100 Strange Harvest
60/100 The Gorge
59/100 Heart Eyes
58/100 Frankenstein
52/100 Dangerous Animals
40/100 825 Forest Road
32/100 28 Years Later
43/100 The Monkey
30/100 Black Phone 2
21/100 Wolf Man
20/100 Clown in a Cornfield
20/100 I Know What You Did Last Summer
18/100 Bring Her Back
10/100 Hell House LLC:Lineage
re: Evil dead burn
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 1:41 am to kjntgr
Here's all the horror movies Ive seen from 2026
100/100 Obsession
84/100 28 Years Later:The Bone Temple
80/100 Primate
75/100 Hokum
74/100 Exit 8
71/100 Faces of Death
64/100 Dolly
63/100 Backrooms
61/100 Passenger
58/100 Found Footage:The Making of the Patterson Project
54/100 Night Patrol
42/100 Cold Storage
41/100 Scream 7
40/100 Lee Cronin's The Mummy
30/100 Ready or Not 2:Here I Come
28/100 Hungry
20/100 Evil Dead Burn
18/100 This Is Not a Test
06/100 Send Help
04/100 Psycho Killer
01/100 Whistle
I know what I love in the horror genre, and Im unforgiving with my rankings when I get stuff that goes against what I like. Then obviously, I have a soft spot for movies that take a swing with something different like Exit 8 and Faces of Death.
If something can actually scare me or put me on edge in 2026, then it gets a bump.
I dont know of any good horror podcasts. I listen to The Big Picture and love when Sean and Chris Ryan discuss horror every blue moon, but thats about it.
100/100 Obsession
84/100 28 Years Later:The Bone Temple
80/100 Primate
75/100 Hokum
74/100 Exit 8
71/100 Faces of Death
64/100 Dolly
63/100 Backrooms
61/100 Passenger
58/100 Found Footage:The Making of the Patterson Project
54/100 Night Patrol
42/100 Cold Storage
41/100 Scream 7
40/100 Lee Cronin's The Mummy
30/100 Ready or Not 2:Here I Come
28/100 Hungry
20/100 Evil Dead Burn
18/100 This Is Not a Test
06/100 Send Help
04/100 Psycho Killer
01/100 Whistle
I know what I love in the horror genre, and Im unforgiving with my rankings when I get stuff that goes against what I like. Then obviously, I have a soft spot for movies that take a swing with something different like Exit 8 and Faces of Death.
If something can actually scare me or put me on edge in 2026, then it gets a bump.
I dont know of any good horror podcasts. I listen to The Big Picture and love when Sean and Chris Ryan discuss horror every blue moon, but thats about it.
re: Evil dead burn
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 12:28 am to kjntgr
One of the worst movies of the year, and it pains me to say it.
Its legitimately not scary at all. The whole movie just feels cheap, The first 2-30 minutes are a slog to get through and once things get going, its just bland.
The Deadites have the least personality in this film than all other 5 combined. They suck.
The story is as weak as it can get, and the gore, at least in my opinion, isnt as bad as other Evil Dead films, especially the original reboot.
I left before the mid and end credits scenes. I just had to get out of there.
One of the years worst horror films, and Ive seen about 25 so far.
Its legitimately not scary at all. The whole movie just feels cheap, The first 2-30 minutes are a slog to get through and once things get going, its just bland.
The Deadites have the least personality in this film than all other 5 combined. They suck.
The story is as weak as it can get, and the gore, at least in my opinion, isnt as bad as other Evil Dead films, especially the original reboot.
I left before the mid and end credits scenes. I just had to get out of there.
One of the years worst horror films, and Ive seen about 25 so far.
re: The Invite--A24---Wide Release July 10
Posted by devils1854 on 7/11/26 at 12:22 am to Don Quixote
Had my second viewing with a full theater tonight..
It surpassed all expectations from watching it a first time.
Yes, I am not a fan of Seth Rogan. I know he's a woke turd thats said many a bad things about conservatives, and he turned his back on his boy Franco to elevate his standing in Hollywood. Yes, I know Olivia Wilde bombed with Dont Worry Darling, and was caught cheating on Sudeikis, and still refutes it, even with evidence. Norton is an all time arse hole, and Penelope Cruz is a wanna be socialist with her husband Javier Bardem.
Have I missed anything that will make conservatives cringe at this movie?
Anyway, I put all that beind me, and Im glad I did. This film is possibly an all timer. up there with Who's Afrafid of Virginia Woolf? and the incomparable Elizabeth Taylor.
The second viewing really shined on Olivia Wilde. Her manic, crazy portrayal of a 40 something woman at her wits end is a thing of beauty. Her facial expressions are Oscar worthy alone.
Norton just looks like he is having fun the whole film. You can really tell he loves what he is doing, and once you realize that his monologue in the third act was all improv, you will appreciate it even more.
Rogan is 2008 funny, just older, and more jaded, and a 50 something Penelope Cruz is incredibly sexy and perfect for the role given to her.
Perfect score. The intermitten use of a lone violin or piano is so effective. Its a gorgeous apartment as the setting of the film, and the camera blocking is perfectly done. I love the shots. Some stick with you.
Give the movie a chance, no matter what your political leanings tell you. Its a fricking joy to watch, and one of the decades, and maybe century's, best.
It surpassed all expectations from watching it a first time.
Yes, I am not a fan of Seth Rogan. I know he's a woke turd thats said many a bad things about conservatives, and he turned his back on his boy Franco to elevate his standing in Hollywood. Yes, I know Olivia Wilde bombed with Dont Worry Darling, and was caught cheating on Sudeikis, and still refutes it, even with evidence. Norton is an all time arse hole, and Penelope Cruz is a wanna be socialist with her husband Javier Bardem.
Have I missed anything that will make conservatives cringe at this movie?
Anyway, I put all that beind me, and Im glad I did. This film is possibly an all timer. up there with Who's Afrafid of Virginia Woolf? and the incomparable Elizabeth Taylor.
The second viewing really shined on Olivia Wilde. Her manic, crazy portrayal of a 40 something woman at her wits end is a thing of beauty. Her facial expressions are Oscar worthy alone.
Norton just looks like he is having fun the whole film. You can really tell he loves what he is doing, and once you realize that his monologue in the third act was all improv, you will appreciate it even more.
Rogan is 2008 funny, just older, and more jaded, and a 50 something Penelope Cruz is incredibly sexy and perfect for the role given to her.
Perfect score. The intermitten use of a lone violin or piano is so effective. Its a gorgeous apartment as the setting of the film, and the camera blocking is perfectly done. I love the shots. Some stick with you.
Give the movie a chance, no matter what your political leanings tell you. Its a fricking joy to watch, and one of the decades, and maybe century's, best.
The Invite--A24---Wide Release July 10
Posted by devils1854 on 7/7/26 at 10:41 pm
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Joe and Angela’s marriage is on thin ice. When they invite their enigmatic upstairs neighbors for a dinner party, the night spirals into unexpected places.
82-Metacritic
4.1-Letterboxd
96-Rotten Tomatoes Critics
91-Rotten Tomatoes Audience
Incredible film that might be the funniest movie of the decade. Its built like a play. One location. Four actors. Its going to be nominated for everything next year from adapted screenplay, to Wilde as director, and maybe even all four actors.
If you are planning on seeing it, I would suggest not watching the trailer because it gives too much away, so I did not link it.
Ive already bought tickets to see it a second time on Friday night. Doing a double feature with the new Evil Dead movie.
re: Minions and Monsters had franchise worst start. $61m
Posted by devils1854 on 7/6/26 at 4:32 pm to Napoleon
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scary movie,
A huge success this summer....Already made almost 3.5x than the last one 13 years ago. Will be the 2nd highest grossing of the series by the end of next weekend, only behind the original. Its at 225 million world wide on a 30 million dollar budget.
re: What is the tipping point for Hollywood to start producing good movies?
Posted by devils1854 on 7/5/26 at 8:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Hollywood is having a good year
No one on here is going to listen to you, even when you present the numbers. They have the biases and nothing is going to change that.
You could say look at the raw domestic numbers and show them movies like Super Mario(430 mil), Michael(370), Project Hail Mary(344), Toy Story 5((335), Obsession(245), Devil Wears Prada(220), Backrooms(190), Hoppers(166), Scream 7(121), Scary Movie(105), GOAT(103) as movies that have made over 100 mil and have been profitable so far this year.
You can show them non-franchise movies that have been profitable like Project Hail Mary(344), Obsession(245), Backrooms(190), Hoppers(166), GOAT(103), Wuthering Heights(84), Sheep Detectives(65), Send Help(64), Reminders of Him(48), The Drama(48), Iron Lung(40) but the goal posts will be moved.
Finally, you could point out the different genres of films that are making money now compared to previous years...video games, horror, romantic/rom-com, animation/family, independent studios.
But none of that matter because feelings mean more than actual facts on this board.
re: US vs Bosnia Nets 24.4 Million Viewers, Peaking At 31 Million
Posted by devils1854 on 7/2/26 at 5:37 pm to WestCoastAg
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at 7am central on a sunday
Oh, time slots matter now?
I remember that just a few days ago, you posted English Premier League ratings and how they are lower than WNBA as proof no one cares about soccer, and yet the Premier League's time slots in the US are usually at 7am, 9am, and 10am on Saturdays and Sundays.
re: 'Supergirl' Discussion Thread: News, Box Office, RT. Spoilers Allowed. WW $68 mil OW
Posted by devils1854 on 6/28/26 at 3:49 pm to Napoleon
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I haven't seen anyone talk any that Robin Hood movie. Good cast I'll likely see it next.
I absolutely loved the movie, although its definitely not for everyone.
The story is from some of the first known stories about Robin Hood, A Gest of Robyn Hode. Robin is an outlaw. He doesnt steal from the rich and give to the poor. There's no Maid Marian, or other characters, or characteristics that were added during The Renaissance Period that are attributed to the character today.
re: 'Supergirl' Discussion Thread: News, Box Office, RT. Spoilers Allowed. WW $68 mil OW
Posted by devils1854 on 6/25/26 at 9:37 pm to olemc999
Complete dog shite of a movie. I want my money back and I pirated the movie off the internet.
The movie looks cheap. Mamoa looks like he is in bad white face paint. This movie might have the worst cover of all time. Its a Sarah McLaughlin type cover of The Middle by Jimmy Eat World, and its the big third act needle drop.
Milly Alcock is bad. The villain is worse, and even as a dog lover, Im over the shoehorning of Krypto as emotional terrorism.
The movie looks cheap. Mamoa looks like he is in bad white face paint. This movie might have the worst cover of all time. Its a Sarah McLaughlin type cover of The Middle by Jimmy Eat World, and its the big third act needle drop.
Milly Alcock is bad. The villain is worse, and even as a dog lover, Im over the shoehorning of Krypto as emotional terrorism.
Diamonds-Waylon Jennings w/Glen Campbell on Guitar
Posted by devils1854 on 6/21/26 at 5:51 pm
re: College World Series - Official Thread
Posted by devils1854 on 6/13/26 at 10:45 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Not sure how I feel about Wes leaving Volchko in this long. I get that you want to save your bullpen but he needs to come back and pitch at least one more time and he's now at a career high # of pitches after setting his previous career high last week.
He's a college pitcher that always pitches on 7 days rest. No chance he was or is going to come back before the championship series. Wednesday would be 4 days rest and would push him to game 3 of the championship series on another 4 days rest. No chance that would ever happen. He's the game 1 starter next Saturday unless the are in the losers bracket and have to have a couple of innings to save their season. Vigue/Brown/Scott are going to have to pitch game 3.
re: 20-0 Challenge - Perfect NFL season game
Posted by devils1854 on 6/13/26 at 2:18 pm to Mister Completely
99-Tom Brady
92-Derrick Henry
96-Antonio Brown
93-CeeDee Lamb
94-Travis Kelce
90-Marshal Yanda
89-Terrell Suggs
96-Micah Parsons
88-Darren Sharper
re: 2026 SEC Champion OMADAWGS (53-14, 30-9) | Season Over
Posted by devils1854 on 6/13/26 at 2:07 pm to smokehouse_83
Ready
re: Disclosure Day | Final trailer and first reactions from THR
Posted by devils1854 on 6/11/26 at 9:10 pm to Kinderman
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Like story wise? Or tonally?
Little of both. If you looking for a War of the Worlds type of movie, you'll be disappointed.
I would say it feels like a mashup of Close Encounters, a good M Night film, and Super 8.
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