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Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:26 pm to DawgHolliday
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:26 pm to DawgHolliday
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What I don’t understand is how you have somehow forgotten all of Stets bad passes where a receiver “bailed him out”, or the silly, stupid INTs he threw early on.
Stet had the luxury of our ace defense to bail him out.
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:29 pm to gothamdawg
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Stet had the luxury of our ace defense to bail him out.
He usually also had 1 or 2 conversions with his feet.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:33 pm to RealDawg
Beck can’t run like Stetson, but it seems he tries to get the ball out of his hands or at least minimize the loss of a sack. I will take that in the grand scheme. As he matures as a starter he may be able to do more with his feet, but he has done a good job so far getting the ball out of his hands. Either to live another day or to get positive yards. That dump over the blitz for a first down against Auburn was absolutely huge and he should get a lot of credit for making the right read on the fly and making it a catchable ball while taking a nasty hit from a LB running full speed at him. That takes some nuts.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:24 pm to meansonny
quote:Sell yourself all ya like, but everyone here knows Beck hasn’t been very accurate in general, including you. He’s got 8 deep pass attempts and only 2 have been catchable. And he’s also missed some very standard medium throws, been below average at leading receivers so they could get YAC, and even hung a few receivers out to get crushed.
When there are 3 defenders in the area and you are describing the 1 spot the defender isnt... then it is a good throw. QBs turn around receivers all of the time. If the receiver is running an out, turning him around changes his momentum to cut upfield (as opposed to carrying his momentum out of bounds). If a receiver is running into a defenders zone(like Bowers was), the QB can protect his by changing his momentum for the catch.
And this isn’t some BS opinion or even criticism, it’s just facts we all saw with our own eyes.
So while it would be nice to believe he planned his placement on those throws as if he purposely intended or knew Bowers would be able to turn and catch them with one hand, nobody truly believes it that isn’t lying to themselves.
I really want Beck to succeed. I want my Dawgs to smoke everyone and 3-pete. So I hate that I’m seeing what I’m seeing and feel like we’re in trouble when we play a good team.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:49 pm to DawgHolliday
quote:Get outta here with that hyperbolic horseshite, because I’ve said nothing of the sort.
We have established that you don’t like Beck. That much is clear. What I don’t understand is how you have somehow forgotten all of Stets bad passes where a receiver “bailed him out”, or the silly, stupid INTs he threw early on. You seem to forget that by the time he got a chance to start, he was older than Beck is now. You have selective memory based on a profound (and I would say unfair) dislike of the current QB. Everything is his fault. He fumbles punts/kicks and plays defense. He drops balls that hit him in the hands. He is in charge of who gets injured and how severe the injuries are. He decides how many starters we will be missing and for how long. Hell, he even plays defense for the other teams, and when one of their players has a great effort play and beats one of our guys…shite, that’s Carson’s fault too. Why not just say “I hate Carson Beck and I literally wish ANYONE else was the QB at UGA.”, because that’s what all of your posts really mean.
Quote me where I’ve said anything directed at him that wasn’t 100% only about his actual play.
Overthrowing/missing 6 of 8 deep passes is on him.
Not cycling through receivers and missing what would have been wide open uncontested TD’s multiple times in nearly each game is on him.
Throwing the ball away when he’s got 10-12 yards of open space in front of him leaving us 3rd and long rather than 3rd and short is on him.
Forcing the ball to Bowers at the goal line when the defender is 1-yard away rather than when there was an open window 10-yards earlier, or even to Mews who was completely wide open, is on him.
These things have zero to do with injured players, or our defense, or fumbles, or kicks, or play calling, or coaching decisions, so again, frickoff with your nonsense.
If you don’t want to acknowledge that these facts have happened, you’re just a jackass.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:50 pm to BeefDawg
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Sell yourself all ya like, but everyone here knows Beck hasn’t been very accurate in general, including you. He’s got 8 deep pass attempts and only 2 have been catchable. And he’s also missed some very standard medium throws, been below average at leading receivers so they could get YAC, and even hung a few receivers out to get crushed.
And this isn’t some BS opinion or even criticism, it’s just facts we all saw with our own eyes.
So while it would be nice to believe he planned his placement on those throws as if he purposely intended or knew Bowers would be able to turn and catch them with one hand, nobody truly believes it that isn’t lying to themselves.
I really want Beck to succeed. I want my Dawgs to smoke everyone and 3-pete. So I hate that I’m seeing what I’m seeing and feel like we’re in trouble when we play a good team.
So we have a pretty good QB, and a Heisman-caliber tight end, we are undefeated, on the trail to where we all want to go, but you are still miserable. In addition to being miserable, you want to spread your misery. Do I have that correct?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:02 pm to deeprig9
quote:This is a thread titled “Carson Beck”.
So we have a pretty good QB, and a Heisman-caliber tight end, we are undefeated, on the trail to where we all want to go, but you are still miserable. In addition to being miserable, you want to spread your misery. Do I have that correct?
Was the purpose of the thread supposed to be a circlejerk session of frickbois proverbially fellating him because he’s our starting QB and I just misunderstood the assignment?
Or was it to actually discuss his play?
Have I demeaned the team, our wins, and our undefeated record? Or just listed out the precise actions and deficiencies of our QB that we all know deep down is worrisome whenever we don’t play a scrub team?
Sorry I’m not able to wear the Carson Beck rose-colored glasses of cock sucking.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:41 pm to BeefDawg
Beef, what subjects would you consider yourself an expert in?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:45 pm to BeefDawg
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Carson Beck rose-colored glasses of cock sucking.
And where might one acquire said glasses?
Asking for a friend.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:04 am to Peter Buck
quote:I like you, man, but don’t be that guy.
Beef, what subjects would you consider yourself an expert in?
I’m not a mechanic, but I know when I see an expense finely tuned and excellently running car.
And even with 40+ years watching football, 8 years playing it, and 8 years coaching it, I’m not an expert. But I know damn well what I see.
I’m 52 with some hard earned life experience and wisdom. My frickin joints and back ache from getting here. I’ve beat cancer, found true perspective, and figured out I don’t need approval or agreement from people to sustain me.
That said, I’m honest, logical, and not a frickin idiot, so I’ll say what I see and know, even if it bothers people who don’t like it. Not because they think I’m wrong or because they are hypocrites, but because undesirable truth hurts.
That’s all most of this shite towards me really is from you guys.
Again, sorry some of you don’t like discussing Beck in a thread about discussing Beck.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:25 am to BeefDawg
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I like you, man, but don’t be that guy.
I’m not a mechanic, but I know when I see an expense finely tuned and excellently running car.
And even with 40+ years watching football, 8 years playing it, and 8 years coaching it, I’m not an expert. But I know damn well what I see.
I’m 52 with some hard earned life experience and wisdom. My frickin joints and back ache from getting here. I’ve beat cancer, found true perspective, and figured out I don’t need approval or agreement from people to sustain me.
That said, I’m honest, logical, and not a frickin idiot, so I’ll say what I see and know, even if it bothers people who don’t like it. Not because they think I’m wrong or because they are hypocrites, but because undesirable truth hurts.
That’s all most of this shite towards me really is from you guys.
Again, sorry some of you don’t like discussing Beck in a thread about discussing Beck.
Based on what I am reading, your view is skewed during the game by emotions.
I like to watch the game a few times during the week on youtube with fresh and sober eyes. I say this, because what you are seeing and what I am seeing don’t jive.
Beck has a 72.1% completion rate, averaging 300 yards per game, and 9.3 yards per play. All put him in the top tier of college QBs.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:59 am to BeefDawg
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That said, I’m honest, logical, and not a frickin idiot, so I’ll say what I see and know, even if it bothers people
Soooo. You're not a people person.
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because they are hypocrites, but because undesirable truth hurts.
Who is a hypocrite?
When did you become the arbiter of truth?
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:26 am to BeefDawg
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Sell yourself all ya like, but everyone here knows Beck hasn’t been very accurate in general, including you.
Beck has a completion rate of 72%. So you think EVERYONE knows Beck hasn't been very accurate? I think YOU are the one that isn't very accurate in your appraisal of Beck. Several passes he threw on target have been dropped by several different receivers. Arian Smith in particular.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:43 am to Peter Buck
quote:So you’re saying he hasn’t missed 6 of 8 deep pass attempts?
Based on what I am reading, your view is skewed during the game by emotions. I like to watch the game a few times during the week on youtube with fresh and sober eyes. I say this, because what you are seeing and what I am seeing don’t jive.
He hasn’t missed seeing multiple receivers without a defender near them? The announcers and TV replays are just saying and showing an alternate dimension or something?
We actually are scoring in the first halves and not forced to pass a buttload just to win in the second half of several games?
Receivers aren’t consistently having to make acrobatic and 1h catches?
Receivers are getting a lot of YAC and not having to stop their stride to catch balls resulting in immediate tackles?
And we’re not stalling at an abnormal clip in the redzone?
And considering we’ve played nothing but bottom tier scrub arse teams with terrible defenses, you think his stats really = “top tier” and will be just as good against better talent when we play good teams?
Ok. If that’s how you roll, go for it.
Not sure why I can’t disagree without people putting words in my mouth, but whatever.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:53 am to BeefDawg
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So you’re saying he hasn’t missed 6 of 8 deep pass attempts?
1) deep pass attempts are low conversion pass attempts. I saw Matt Stafford go 0 for 8 as a junior against Florida.
2) are all of the misses completely on Beck's shoulders? They are low completion because nearly everything has to go right. Protection. Route. Timing. Placement.
Bitching about low completions on a low completion play sounds like the thing you expect on the internet.
The point should be... do we score on those drives? Sometimes we do. Sometimes we don't.
I've seen some on another board question the personnel in those deep shots (meeks, delp, arian).
Ideally, you want Ladd, Bowers, Lovett (our 3 best receivers).
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We actually are scoring in the first halves and not forced to pass a buttload just to win in the second half of several games?
Beck is such a bitch when Delp and Mews fumble the ball. Why is Beck such a bitch?
And did you see that hold by Tate? Why didn't Beck go apeshit on him? Beck should have told him to sit down and call Morris out onto the field immediately.
No one else holds the defense in the redzone. Beck is such a bitch.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:18 am to meansonny
quote:Buddy, if you haven’t figured out that most people suck by now, I don’t know what to tell ya.
Soooo. You're not a people person.
And why would you even go there? You can supposedly glean everything about me from some words, but I’m the a-hole for expressing what I’ve seen and interpreted?
quote:I said “Not… hypocrites”. Maybe I should have used consistent grammar and said “not” twice, but I wasn’t calling anyone a hypocrite.
Who is a hypocrite?
That said, it now does seem a bit hypocritical for you to assume you know me enough to blanket categorize me based on a few words, while at the same time you criticize me for categorizing Beck.
You don’t think that’s a double-standard?
quote:See my post above this one. What have I said that isn’t true.
When did you become the arbiter of truth?
I get that me not being impressed with 72% completion, 300ypg, and a 9.3ypa vs incredibly shitty defenses is an opinion. But my rationale for that opinion is based on 100% facts.
And maybe we disagree on what we consider a fact, but that’s a you guys problem.
And if you gotta get all hyperbolic, put words in my mouth, make false and demeaning assumptions and insults just to make sure I know you disagree with me, then sorry but maybe it’s you that’s “not the people person”.
Just sayin.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:40 pm to BeefDawg
Auburn is a good defense and he was 70% for 313 yards and 8-13 on third down. Those are great numbers on the road against a good SEC defense.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:05 pm to Peter Buck
He was also 8-10 in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:06 pm to BeefDawg
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Buddy, if you haven’t figured out that most people suck by now, I don’t know what to tell ya.
It is good to get your aspirations out on the table. Very kind of you.
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You can supposedly glean everything about me from some words, but I’m the a-hole for expressing what I’ve seen and interpreted?
For an angry person, you are very sensitive.
Have I implied that I know everything about you?
I implied that you aren't a people person based on your own words describing yourself.
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Who is a hypocrite?
So, no one is a hypocrite.
I'm glad that you brought up hypocrites to clarify that no one is. Again, very kind of you.
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You don’t think that’s a double-standard?
I honestly don't know what your point is:
People suck?
We are not hypocrites?
Beck is a bitch?
How could I glean a double-standard?
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get that me not being impressed with 72% completion, 300ypg, and a 9.3ypa vs incredibly shitty defenses is an opinion.
I'm following you.
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But my rationale for that opinion is based on 100% facts.
You've lost me again. Lol
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maybe it’s you that’s “not the people person”.
Just sayin.
Maybe it is cathartic for you to get that out there.
Your life has you angry about this 2023 season. That sucks. Because this is the golden era of UGA football. Carson Beck isn't the problem.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:22 pm to BeefDawg
You are an angry human being. Somehow you believe yourself superior of character and intellect to everyone you encounter in life. Probably think of yourself as an Alfalfa…er Alpha…or at least you want everyone on an anonymous message board to believe that’s what you think of yourself. Alfalfa is probably closer to the truth.
You get completely unhinged by challenges to your position on literally ANY subject. That is not strength of character or intellect. It is reverting to base (meaning crude and unsophisticated) human behavior.
Name calling and over the top rebuttals do not indicate any of the characteristics you would like to have people believe you possess.
It’s all good though. Your “Alfalfa” personality type won’t allow you to take the critique without coming back hard in the paint. Just know that I and many other have been laughing at you this whole time and will continue to do so.
You get completely unhinged by challenges to your position on literally ANY subject. That is not strength of character or intellect. It is reverting to base (meaning crude and unsophisticated) human behavior.
Name calling and over the top rebuttals do not indicate any of the characteristics you would like to have people believe you possess.
It’s all good though. Your “Alfalfa” personality type won’t allow you to take the critique without coming back hard in the paint. Just know that I and many other have been laughing at you this whole time and will continue to do so.
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