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re: Breaking- Kirby Says JT is Now Healthy: UPDATE- Insiders: Stetson Will Get the Start vs FU

Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:07 pm to
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I think some answers will come from NFL scouts, coaches, and management. If Bennett is really that good, we should start to see NFL projections this winter.


I think Stet starts until he screws up or gets hurt because of how well he's been playing... not just for a game or two, but for the vast majority of the season while JT nurses his booboo. That isn't the same as saying he's the better pro prospect. You are arguing against an argument that nobody has made.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Has Bennett really played better? Or is UGA simply better than last year and vastly better than anyone we've played thus far?


He's definitely benefiting from having better starting field position and a full year for Monken to install his system.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63932 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:41 pm to
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He's definitely benefiting from having better starting field position and a full year for Monken to install his system.


There's a lot of factors, but personal development is also a factor.

Burrow in 2018 looked like a gimp after having transferred from Oh St as a career backup. Enter Brady and another year of development, he became a badass.

Baker Mayfield was a nobody Walk On at Texas Tech. Transferred, walked on again, no scholly at OK. Got into a system. Personal development. Became a badass.

I am not saying Stet is on either of those guys' levels, let me make that very clear.

What I am saying is that time and development can turn a mediocre guy into something special. It's not a fairy tale. It happens all the time.

I admit there's some "recency bias" with people like me who are smitten with Stet. But on the other side of the same coin, there is a lot of "confirmation bias" with the JT Nation based on 2020 Stet vs 2020 JT that disrupts the ability to see what is actually happening right now.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:45 pm to
Sure, I never said that wasn't a factor. In fact I've said he's improved compared to last year. But JTD looks like he's improved compared to last year as well. We just have a much more limited sample.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:22 pm to
Did you watch the Clemson game? He missed some throws. He locks in on the first read and forces it. He has the talent to do that a lot of the time.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:43 pm to
In all honesty and emotions aside, who do you think really gives us the best shot?
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:53 pm to
Stet did his job. Kirby trusts JT and was his QB once he saved them from Miss St. when they had their worse running game in eons. Same scenario against Cincy.

Stet plays when you encounter a dominant front 7 or when JT really struggles. Really an easy decision when you consider the OL is elite pass pro and so so rush blocking.


Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:21 pm to
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Did you watch the Clemson game? He missed some throws. He locks in on the first read and forces it. He has the talent to do that a lot of the time.



I definitely watched that game the same as all Dawg Nation did. But you and I saw two very different games if you think he locks in and forces it on the first read. I've also watched all of his games last year and this year and still don't see that. He deals the ball out pretty efficiently.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:26 pm to
Sorry, I’m just trying to say retarded stuff like the JT cucks. We went from having a 1st string and 2nd string QB to two starters. We are in good shape.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:50 am to
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This is the proper response if someone tries to bring you into the JT/Stetson debate


No, no, no. The proper response is to bring up the GENERATIONAL TALENT that bailed on us a couple of years ago.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 7:05 am to
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Sorry, I’m just trying to say retarded stuff like the JT cucks. We went from having a 1st string and 2nd string QB to two starters. We are in good shape.


Honestly? (And I've already said this) I agree 100%. I think we have two starters. Bennett is head and shoulders better than last year or any previous years. Instead of throwing the ball up he is either eating it or throwing it away. This season he has 11 TDs and 2 or 3 INTs. That is good.

JT is the better QB for the next level, but we don't necessarily need the best at the next level. We need the best at this level. With his injury history we need Bennett and Daniels to be ready.

Both need and should get reps in the coming weeks, in case one or the other goes down. Like I said, I typically HATE a dual QB system, but it is warranted in this instance based on Daniels injury history. We will need both to finish the year.
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 7:07 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41665 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 10:15 am to
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Both need and should get reps in the coming weeks, in case one or the other goes down. Like I said, I typically HATE a dual QB system, but it is warranted in this instance based on Daniels injury history. We will need both to finish the year.
We might even have our own situation where “Tua” needs to come in for the struggling “Hurts” (or vice versa), due to injury or performance, and the other needs to step up to win it. Both QBs are in a position to do that.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 11:23 am to
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We might even have our own situation where “Tua” needs to come in for the struggling “Hurts” (or vice versa), due to injury or performance, and the other needs to step up to win it. Both QBs are in a position to do that.




Excellent point and exactly right. They both need reps to stay sharp and be ready to step in. Who knows we might need one or the other against Florida.


Poetic justice though?

We are down in the 4th quarter to Alabama in the SECCG (or National Championship game) and the "reserve" comes in and throws a winning TD pass as time expires to win the game. I think I would go crazy.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59785 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 3:01 pm to
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We might even have our own situation where “Tua” needs to come in for the struggling “Hurts” (or vice versa), due to injury or performance, and the other needs to step up to win it. Both QBs are in a position to do that.


This has been my position for over a month
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 3:34 pm to
As to dual-QB systems, UGA-FL may be an interesting game with both teams playing two QBs.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 3:39 pm to
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The proper response is to bring up the GENERATIONAL TALENT that bailed on us a couple of years ago.



Not sure it's relevant to this discussion but much of the objective, outside of UGA world does think Smart blew that one. He went with the guy who wound up a 5th round NFL pick and is now on the Bills practice squad (Fromm), over a guy he let transfer who went on to pass for 5400 yards and score 63 TDs at OSU (and will be the Bear's starting QB sooner or later). Meanwhile, Fromm regressed somewhat in his last year at UGA and we didn't make the CFP.

I guess Smart figured, "Well, Fromm's winning games NOW so if Fields leaves, so be it..." Realistically, if Smart had simply committed to playing Fields a lot more - maybe go to the dreaded two-QB system - Fields might have brought a lot to the table, whether he won over the starting job or not.

It's all water under the bridge but I like to think that Kirby has learned to let an OC run everything related to the offense, including personnel decisions.
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 5:42 pm to
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As to dual-QB systems, UGA-FL may be an interesting game with both teams playing two QBs.




I hadn't thought of that, but you're right.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 11:58 pm to
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but much of the objective, outside of UGA world does think Smart blew that one.


Actually,the objective, outside of UGA world doesn't give the remotest possible frick. It didn't involve them, and they don't care. Some sports talking heads might still natter about it, but that's about it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63932 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:07 pm to
Bump. Insiders on other boards this morning saying Stet will get the start.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:47 pm to
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Insiders on other boards this morning saying Stet will get the start.


If that's the case, I bet this is the last year JT stays here
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