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re: Big Shoutout to Tom Crean
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:21 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:21 am to WG_Dawg
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It amazes me sometimes how reactionary our fanbase is, and especially towards basketball. We could literally lose out this season and crean will still be back, as he should be.
Ding ding ding... especially when the vast majority don't even watch the damn games... "We lost, Crean Sucks, fire that mf'er..."
He may end up being terrible over his tenure, but he'll get an opportunity to fill the roster, try and develop it, and see where it takes them...
I do think that barring something crazy happening, Antman may be his last lottery caliber recruit though... at least for the foreseeable future.
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:24 am to lewis and herschel
quote:Except he turned D Wade and V Oladipo from relatively unknown to first round picks. Top 3 picks even.
This is actually a case of an elite recruiter that can't coach....
It's actually an example of starting fresh and having 9/12 fresh/sophs.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:53 am to Barstools
He is losing the winnable games and doing it in embarrassing fashion. One thing to lose tough games against a rough opponent, we are losing to middle of the road to bad teams.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:37 pm to Barstools
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Maten
Don’t even mention that dude in the same breath as Edwards. One will be playing in the NBA for 10 plus years while the other will be playing overseas.
And yes... Edwards will be the #1 pick in the draft
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:47 pm to Kneehigh
You didn't even address my question. Stop letting emotions get the best of you. What player does Crean have that can put the team on his back and carry them, like Maten. Sure as hell isn't AE. I wasn't comparing their future NBA careers. AE is a freshman with a lot of potential. But hes not there yet. Probably won't be for 2-3 years either.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:49 pm to Kneehigh
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And yes... Edwards will be the #1 pick in the draft
Nice edit...
No he most certainly wont. He's shown to be a project. I expect him to "fall" to 2-3. Which who fricking cares. This is about what hes doing in college, not later down the line.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:33 pm to Barstools
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Nice edit...
Ok...
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No he most certainly wont. He's shown to be a project. I expect him to "fall" to 2-3. Which who fricking cares. This is about what hes doing in college, not later down the line.
They Seem to think he's the first pick
These people also think he's #1
But you know waaaaay more than people who make calls, investigate teams/coaches.
Wow... Would you look at that... Even the NBA Heads think so too.
And as for Edwards "carrying a team" he didn't have JJ Frazier... DO, Nick Claxton...
Stick to your little 7 year bubble of college basketball and especially UGA basketball. Thanks.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:35 pm to Kneehigh
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And yes... Edwards will be the #1 pick in the draft
Depends on who wins the lottery. Wiseman is going to be in play for this, too.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:41 pm to VADawg
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Depends on who wins the lottery. Wiseman is going to be in play for this, too.
Sure... but the Warriors have shown high interest in him. Atlanta sure as hell won't turn down the hometown kid ala Nique part II. Cleveland, IDK.
Lottery Odds
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:28 pm to Kneehigh
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Stick to your little 7 year bubble of college basketball and especially UGA basketball. Thanks.
What does that even mean? I've been watching UGA basketball for 30+ years.I How does that contribute to the conversation? We're talking about the last 2 years. Is what happened in 1980 really relevant anyway?
You were clamoring for Fox to be fired and now you want to fire Crean before he even gets his first class of Juniors.
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And as for Edwards "carrying a team" he didn't have JJ Frazier... DO, Nick Claxton...
Your original argument was Crean had MORE than Fox yet somehow, Maten had more than Edwards. You cant have it both ways you emotional halfwit.
FOH.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:28 pm to Barstools
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Your original argument was Crean had MORE than Fox
Yes you stupid frick. Yes. He has MORE HIGHLY RATED TALENT this year compared to any time than FOX had in his entire career?
You arguing with yourself dumbass. He's been a really shitty coach.
And Yes, I didn't like Fox... In fact.. I despised his style of basketball. But... he appears to be a better coach than Crean at this snap shot moment.
I really don't understand why you do this with people here. You talk in circles and confuse yourself.
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We're talking about the last 2 years.
Now we're getting somewhere. Do I need to help you out? Fill in the blanks?
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Your original argument was
#1 Pick. Top ten class. Shitty coaching performance. You brought Yante into this. You said he carried the team and Edwards can't.
How can or does Edwards carry this team? What makes Maten a much better prospect to be able to "carry a team" that Edwards can't accomplish?
Or maybe... just maybe... Crean really shite the bed with the talent he received.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:44 pm to Kneehigh
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How can or does Edwards carry this team? What makes Maten a much better prospect to be able to "carry a team" that Edwards can't accomplish?
Edwards is a MUCH, MUCH better talent but the experience for Maten was a big factor. You don't see many of the one and done teams cutting down the nets in April for a reason.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:51 pm to VADawg
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Edwards is a MUCH, MUCH better talent but the experience for Maten was a big factor. You don't see many of the one and done teams cutting down the nets in April for a reason.
You're right. I fell into that trap. Every once in a while, you'll get a group of 5 top 10 picks (not at UGA obviously) and they'll win. Not very often though.
The game has changed. Teams are winning with experience... and before Bartool comes in here and tries to extend this enigma for another 3 pages... Crean just didn't get it done this year. Plain and simple.
He grossly underachieved this year even with these young guys. Why? The SEC is probably one of the worst basketball conferences in the country. There's so many shitty teams and we're one of them.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:58 pm to Kneehigh
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ADGM was asked the question... he gave the classic kiss of death response... believe what you want I guess
I believe GM is retiring
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:01 pm to AmericusDawg
What is the legacy of GM? What will he be remembered for in his time as AD?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:19 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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What is the legacy of GM? What will he be remembered for in his time as AD?
Hopefully it's bringing Kirby home and not giving up on Stricklin too soon after they both win a NC this coming season and Kirby goes back to back. Maybe a couple tourney appearances from Crean to boot.
Would all that be enough to sway your opinion of him?
It wont happened but one can dream.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:21 pm to dawgdayafternoon
We will get them next year or in the case of basketball never...
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:31 pm to AmericusDawg
Woah
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:44 am to Barstools
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but he is doing extraordinarily less with more.
Please explain this comment. How does he have "more".
Fox had Maten who was all conference. Who does Crean have even as remotely productive? Based on performance.
well he has the best class, player, investment and fan turnout in program history. Did you expect with a lottery pick and top 5-10 class depending on whom you ask, to actually be last in the SEC and sub .500? If so than I stand corrected...he is right on track...
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:23 pm to Dawg4Life
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well he has the best class
They’re all freshmen. We have no returning depth outside of Harris and Hammonds. Crump sucks. So does basically everyone else who was on the team before this year.
A team full of freshmen is not going to be good. Don’t get me wrong, Crean has struggled, but I think this team will be much better next year, even without Edwards.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:25 pm
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