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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:42 pm
Just checked over this kids AAU stats. He upped his 3pt% to 45% on the AAU circuit.
That's an eFG% of 58% on a PER of over 30. His mechanics are solid, he's got good vision, and he can play D. I was hesitant to say it initially because he looked raw compared to some top picks from past years, but this kid is going #1 in the draft.
Question is how far can this team go in the tourney with the recruiting class and returners. I'd be more than happy with the Sweet 16, but more is possible. Am I being too optimistic?
That's an eFG% of 58% on a PER of over 30. His mechanics are solid, he's got good vision, and he can play D. I was hesitant to say it initially because he looked raw compared to some top picks from past years, but this kid is going #1 in the draft.
Question is how far can this team go in the tourney with the recruiting class and returners. I'd be more than happy with the Sweet 16, but more is possible. Am I being too optimistic?
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:01 pm to chillmonster
The tournament is a crap shoot. I mainly want a successful regular season and an opportunity to play when it matters most. If we can finish near the top 25 for the regular season I’ll be very pleased. You can make a tourney run from there.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:01 pm to chillmonster
If Claxton comes back, not making the Sweet 16 would be a disappointment IMO.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:44 pm to BranchDawg
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not making the Sweet 16 would be a disappointment IMO.
Signed UGA basketball
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
This... A top 2-3 finish in the conference during the regular season would be a great sign for Crean's ability to land talent and get them ready to play quickly...
Certainly would be great to see a deep run in the tournament, but wouldn't make that the single bar/metric... Draw in the tournament matters a ton. Finishing higher in the regular season is likely to yield a better seeding and typically a better path.
Like dot34, would like to see something like a top 25 finish regular season to put us in line for a 5-6 seeding, and hopefully a beneficial first matchup in the dance... From there it's a total crap shoot.
Certainly would be great to see a deep run in the tournament, but wouldn't make that the single bar/metric... Draw in the tournament matters a ton. Finishing higher in the regular season is likely to yield a better seeding and typically a better path.
Like dot34, would like to see something like a top 25 finish regular season to put us in line for a 5-6 seeding, and hopefully a beneficial first matchup in the dance... From there it's a total crap shoot.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:44 pm to fibonaccisquared
Honestly, this is THE class. We signed 4 top 90 players in the country including the top draft pick.....if we are teetering on top 25, it’s a huge failure in coaching. I’m sorry. If Clax stays and we have this class, sweet 16 should be an immediate goal and expectation.
The 2020 class is going to be just like the early 2000s with Duke, UK, Carolina and Memphis leading the way.
If we are here talking about this next Feb 20th about hoping to make 5-7 seed in the tourney.....that would be a huge sign that he can’t coach and we will regress to mid-2000 level
The 2020 class is going to be just like the early 2000s with Duke, UK, Carolina and Memphis leading the way.
If we are here talking about this next Feb 20th about hoping to make 5-7 seed in the tourney.....that would be a huge sign that he can’t coach and we will regress to mid-2000 level
Posted on 5/21/19 at 9:27 pm to chillmonster
I think we will be playing for a top 4 position for next season and can make a run for the tourney title. Sweet Sixteen in the NCAA tourney is a possibility.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:05 pm to IT_Dawg
If you were talking about the SEC circa 3-4 years ago, I would agree, but it's more than just UK plus Florida now... The conference schedule alone will be a gauntlet. Certainly would love to see us as a top 10-15 squad but literally nothing in our history would make that a reasonable bar for success vs failure... In the business world we'd call that a stretch goal...
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:51 am to IT_Dawg
you are going to be disappointed.
what makes you think that georgia basketball should be expecting a sweet 16 based off of one recruiting class? the other teams didn't just stop trying.
i think we have a shot to be pretty good and im not ruling anything out without actually seeing the freshmen play (and if clax comes back), but we collectively need to pump the brakes.
what makes you think that georgia basketball should be expecting a sweet 16 based off of one recruiting class? the other teams didn't just stop trying.
i think we have a shot to be pretty good and im not ruling anything out without actually seeing the freshmen play (and if clax comes back), but we collectively need to pump the brakes.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:31 am to fibonaccisquared
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Certainly would love to see us as a top 10-15 squad but literally nothing in our history would make that a reasonable bar for success vs failure
What should determine expectations? The history of the program or the actual quality of the roster and coaching in the program?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:20 am to chillmonster
Looks like some folks need to get their expectations in check. Other than Edwards, UGA’s incoming freshmen are more likely the type that are really good in 2-3 years. Making the tournament in any capacity next year would be solid, especially if Claxton stays in the draft.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 6:21 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:33 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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you are going to be disappointed.
Been that way since 2002
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what makes you think that georgia basketball should be expecting a sweet 16 based off of one recruiting class? the other teams didn't just stop trying.
Having the #4 overall avg star rating with 5 recruits, including the best player in the country....that makes us instantly a top 10 team (this ain’t football and sure isn’t b-ball of the past)
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i think we have a shot to be pretty good and im not ruling anything out without actually seeing the freshmen play (and if clax comes back),
You used to be a good basketball fan....now you sound like a media mouth piece
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but we collectively need to pump the brakes.
We don’t have time for brakes. This is literally our best chance, in decades, to make some serious noise.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:58 am to BranchDawg
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What should determine expectations? The history of the program or the actual quality of the roster and coaching in the program?
Little of column A and little of column B... also a realistic look at the current state of the sport relative to your roster.
Arguably one of the best teams we've had at UGA - 2002 - finished the season ranked at... dun dun dun #23. The highest we were ranked that season, 15...
You're now trying to argue that the team should set the bar for success/failure at what amounts to the high water mark for the program in the last 20+ years.
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Having the #4 overall avg star rating with 5 recruits, including the best player in the country....that makes us instantly a top 10 team (this ain’t football and sure isn’t b-ball of the past)
Well this is just patently false...
2018 is a bad year to take a look due to Duke dominating the top 5 recruits... So let's look backwards from there.
2017:
Mizzou signs #4 overall class, #2 player, 96 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Zero
Texas signs #6 overall class, #3 player, 97.27 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Zero
Alabama signs #8 overall class, #5 player, 94 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Two
2016:
Blue bloods kinda dominated the top players
NC State signs #5 class, #7 player, 95.69 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Zero
Florida State signs #4 class, #8 player, 93.72 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Seventeen
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 10 - Three
Finished at 16
2015:
LSU signs #10 class, #1 player, 99.06 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Three
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 10 - Zero
Finished unranked
Cal signed #20 composite (#11 247) class, #4 and #7 players, 96.14 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Six
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 10 - Zero
Finished 23
I could keep going, but is it really necessary? Outside of traditional blue bloods, there aren't many (if any) examples of teams that have made the leap from irrelevance to top 10 squad on the backbone of one recruiting class.
Is it impossible? No... but it's not exactly reasonable to set that as the floor for a successful season either.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:21 am to IT_Dawg
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Having the #4 overall avg star rating with 5 recruits, including the best player in the country....that makes us instantly a top 10 team
No it doesn’t. Did you watch the tournament this year?
Unless you are pulling multiple 1-and-dones, freshmen aren’t going to make you competitive at that level.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:33 am to fibonaccisquared
How about you look at 2018 and see what LSU, Oregon and Maryland did.....
2017, look what Missouri, Texas and Auburn did....
You can pick 1 or 2 that sucked arse and didnt live up to expectations and I can pick 2-3 that blew it out with a class like ours (not including blue bloods - though thats stupid because they send 5-6 off and have new starting 5 every year too)
2017, look what Missouri, Texas and Auburn did....
You can pick 1 or 2 that sucked arse and didnt live up to expectations and I can pick 2-3 that blew it out with a class like ours (not including blue bloods - though thats stupid because they send 5-6 off and have new starting 5 every year too)
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:52 am to IT_Dawg
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How about you look at 2018 and see what LSU, Oregon and Maryland did.....
2017, look what Missouri, Texas and Auburn did....
Are these supposed to be good examples of teams with Freshmen coming in?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:25 am to Dawgsontop34
yeah im confused. freshmen can be great and the recruiting is awesome, but as someone already mentioned, most of these guys are gonna take a year to 3 to become really successful.
we are laying the groundwork for the future with these classes, but also definitely want to be successful this year with potentially clax, hammonds, and ant man. making the tournament should by far be our number one goal.
we are laying the groundwork for the future with these classes, but also definitely want to be successful this year with potentially clax, hammonds, and ant man. making the tournament should by far be our number one goal.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:28 am to IT_Dawg
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2017, look what Missouri, Texas and Auburn did....
What are you talking about?
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2017:
Mizzou signs #4 overall class, #2 player, 96 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Zero
Texas signs #6 overall class, #3 player, 97.27 average
Number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25 - Zero
I'd assume you have your years mixed up here... but here is Texas last 3 seasons:
2018
2017
2016
Grand total over those 3 years: 4 weeks in AP top 25, 0 weeks in AP top 10, Finished all seasons unranked
Recruiting rankings over those 3 seasons: 6, 6, 8
You essentially have one example of a program who turned it around pretty quickly in Auburn.
Pearl was hired in 2014. Starting in 2015, they had back to back classes ranked around 10th by at least one service ...
Number of weeks ranked:
14-15: Zero
15-16: Zero
16-17: Zero
17-18: Nine
18-19: Fourteen
So the payoff on 2 good recruiting classes? Essentially 3 years down the road from the first...
Don't confuse a good tournament run with the same thing as sustained success through the season. As good as that Auburn team was this season, their highest AP ranking was... #7 for one week... along with several weeks at 8/9 (7 weeks in total in the top 10).
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:08 am to chillmonster
Let's just hope he's more this version
Than this one
Than this one
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:39 pm to Dawgsontop34
Michael Porter got hurt immediately so Mizzou doesn't count.
Nobody else had both a top 5 class and the best player without making the tourney with expectations.
Nobody else had both a top 5 class and the best player without making the tourney with expectations.
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