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Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:20 pm to wrecking crew
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:20 pm to wrecking crew
That is an interesting conclusion to that story.
Sumlin really golden parachuted out of here.
Sumlin really golden parachuted out of here.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:38 am to cardboardboxer
Kid needs his head examined (and a free month of premium on texags to read Hubenak’s story) if he thinks Sumlin is the right choice for him and some sort of QB developer.
My guess is his recruitment isn’t over being weird and he will change schools again at some point.
My guess is his recruitment isn’t over being weird and he will change schools again at some point.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:11 pm to cardboardboxer
I think it’s pretty obvious that he could tell that he wasn’t Jimbo’s first choice
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:10 am to Old Sarge
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:26 am to cardboardboxer
Sumlin never recruited well at Houston either. He only recruited well for us because of who we were and what we spent. Sumlin had a chopper on stand-by here while Arizona has only given him 45 hours of Private Jet time for recruiting.
Massive difference.
Massive difference.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:57 pm to Texas Weazel
and because of johnny. arizone will prove how lazy a recruiter he is.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:27 pm to cardboardboxer
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The offensive line is easily Arizona’s worst position group right now.
I'm not anti-Sumlin by any means (actually wish him well), but this is a death knell for his system.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
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However, he [a running back commit of theirs] can catch out of the backfield, a specialty in Mazzone’s offense.
I was unaware his offense specialized in anything other than running uptempo 3 and outs.....
I think Arizona is going to find out he’s fools gold, briles left him some pretty decent talent and a system at UH, and Sherman left him some really good players to start with at A&M.
It will be interesting to see if he can truly build a program up himself from scratch without much in the cubboard to start with (outside of a really good QB apparently). My guess is he can’t. And not that he can’t do decent there, say average 7 wins a season or so, just that he’s not going to have them winning double digits more years than not.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:21 am to Texas Gentleman
He may have one year where the schedule and his roster align and he has a pretty good result, but overall it won’t go well or last long.
Sumlin isn’t a bad HC, he’s not inept, but doesn't have the personal or program discipline or work-ethic to build a real winning *program*.
He caught lightning in a bottle TWICE. I just think the odds are against him being lucky enough for it to strike a third time.
First, he took over a UH system and players that was built/put in place/recruited by bad boy Art Briles, who is 10X the coach Sumlin is. AND he inherited an NFL-caliber 32 year old QB who’d been given 16 years of eligibility by the NCAA.
Then, he inherited the best offensive line in college football that year (by FAR) from Sleepy Sherm, AND a Heisman QB in Juan Manziel, AND brought with him Kliff Kingsbury, who was the best OC Sumlin has ever had and was PERFECT personality wise for coaching Manziel.
After he lost Kliff, the o-line Sherman built, and Cocaine Johnny, his result was worse every year. He was here long enough to establish a VERY clear, undeniable trend-line.
Sumlin will be able to recruit some guys because his personality and manufactured swag deal have their appeal to todays yoot, but they’ll find out as our guys did that that’s not really who he is and he’ll ignore them after they’re on campus, because he is inauthentic and lazy.
I also just don’t see how he can build anything with that joke Mazzone as OC. That’s basically a death-knell from the get-go. Mazzone is a hack and his RPO spread is a gimmick that he hawks on the internet. Sumlin brought him along because he can’t hire anyone better at this point. That tells you all you need to know!
Sumlin isn’t a bad HC, he’s not inept, but doesn't have the personal or program discipline or work-ethic to build a real winning *program*.
He caught lightning in a bottle TWICE. I just think the odds are against him being lucky enough for it to strike a third time.
First, he took over a UH system and players that was built/put in place/recruited by bad boy Art Briles, who is 10X the coach Sumlin is. AND he inherited an NFL-caliber 32 year old QB who’d been given 16 years of eligibility by the NCAA.
Then, he inherited the best offensive line in college football that year (by FAR) from Sleepy Sherm, AND a Heisman QB in Juan Manziel, AND brought with him Kliff Kingsbury, who was the best OC Sumlin has ever had and was PERFECT personality wise for coaching Manziel.
After he lost Kliff, the o-line Sherman built, and Cocaine Johnny, his result was worse every year. He was here long enough to establish a VERY clear, undeniable trend-line.
Sumlin will be able to recruit some guys because his personality and manufactured swag deal have their appeal to todays yoot, but they’ll find out as our guys did that that’s not really who he is and he’ll ignore them after they’re on campus, because he is inauthentic and lazy.
I also just don’t see how he can build anything with that joke Mazzone as OC. That’s basically a death-knell from the get-go. Mazzone is a hack and his RPO spread is a gimmick that he hawks on the internet. Sumlin brought him along because he can’t hire anyone better at this point. That tells you all you need to know!
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:01 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Even with Gunnell, some might not be as impressed as they once were. He was ranked No. 47 in the nation a few months ago, he now sits at 134th in the nation and the sixth-best pro-style quarterback. He had a poor showing at the Elite 11, which was largely due to a knee injury that he had been dealing with.
A&M dodged a bullet there
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:31 pm to cardboardboxer
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I don’t necessarily care about rankings until a certain point. All Arizona needs right now is player development, something they didn’t get with Rich.
Welp Gabe Encinas....I've got some bad news for you...
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:41 am to PhilipMarlowe
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Tight ends came and went at Arizona without much utilization over the last six years. Now Arizona two legitimate threats at the position with an all-around tight end in Wolma, and a vertical threat with Nunley.
Peters and Williams provide great insurance and can get some solid game time experience to grow. Head coach Kevin Sumlin will coach the tight ends
Ah I do not know where to even start or how to break the bad news to these poor guys
Here’s how tight end receptions played out during the Kevin Sumlin era:
2012 – 9 catches, 77 yards, zero touchdowns
2013 – 6 catches, 48 yards, two touchdowns
2014 – 5 catches, 34 yards, zero touchdowns
2015 – 3 catches, 10 yards, one touchdown
2016 – 2 catches, 21 yards, one touchdown
2017 – 10 catches, 104 yards, zero touchdowns
Total – 35 catches, 294 yards, four touchdowns
Average – 5.8 catches, 49 yards, .3 touchdowns
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 3:08 am
Posted on 7/11/18 at 7:46 am to wrecking crew
The TE situation was always mind-blowing. You would think you’d accidentally throw to them more than that.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:40 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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The TE situation was always mind-blowing. You would think you’d accidentally throw to them more than that.
I mean, a chance checkdown here, a busted play there.....SUMN
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:51 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Gimme a tight end or GTF off my lawn.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:41 pm to SafetySam
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Gimme a tight end or GTF off my lawn.
I'll not only give you several tight ends but also a coach who will use them. Strange days ahead. In any case, I ain't on your lawn. Yet.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:40 am to finestfirst79
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I ain't on your lawn. Yet.
Awwww sheeeeit!
We should sell tickets to this slobberknocker when it goes down.
AggyArk Fight Night
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:59 am to TbirdSpur2010
I'm curious what the source is for their expectation that Sumlin will make the TE position a significant part of his offense at Arizona. Certainly not based on past behavior. Sounds more like being misinformed due to an intel failure.
We also had some problems defending the opposing TE.
Whatever, I bet this won't be the last time the subject of the TE comes up in Arizona, just not for the reasons they might think now.
We also had some problems defending the opposing TE.
Whatever, I bet this won't be the last time the subject of the TE comes up in Arizona, just not for the reasons they might think now.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:16 am to PikeBishop
We should not have expected anything from Cliff's offense when it comes to the TE. However, Mazzone has a history of big-time TE use. That is what was shocking.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:52 am to Farmer1906
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However, Mazzone has a history of big-time TE use. That is what was shocking.
Sumlin says...
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