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re: OT: Stay safe fellow Houston posters
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:59 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:59 pm to WestCoastAg
That little area right there must have good fishing. I see three or four people right there everyday on my way to work.
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:01 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
They're evacuating Ben Taub, other hospitals likely to follow. I have multiple friends from med school who will be living at their respective hospitals for 2-3 days because they can't get out and no other residents can get in.
I remember how bad the floods last June were, we were in the process of moving and it was a nightmare. They've already exceeded that rainfall total by 5+ inches, I can't even fathom being there right now. Reportedly all the buildings downtown are flooded up to the second floor.
I remember how bad the floods last June were, we were in the process of moving and it was a nightmare. They've already exceeded that rainfall total by 5+ inches, I can't even fathom being there right now. Reportedly all the buildings downtown are flooded up to the second floor.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
I believe that since I've seen pictures of the downtown exit off of I 10 they look to have about 12-13 feet of water over them
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:03 pm to agalloch
Rockport is much worse than it looks.
We evacuated Corpus on Friday am to the Valley. I went back yesterday to check on things and our house is fine with no damage. Just need power.
I went to Rockport to check on my Mom's house. They live in the Country Club. Their house is fine, as is most of that neighborhood. However the rest of the city is catastrophic. I cannot explain how bad it is. 50 to 70% of all buildings have extreme structural damage, including most of the businesses. Residences are about 50/50. Those closer to the water, and around the high school are total losses. If you had an older house not built to modern windstorm standards, it is likely a total loss. The area between Rockport and AP is very bad, with nearly all houses totally gone, or with only a partial wall remaining.
I did not go to Key Allegro or Fulton Beach.
If you have property, go check and secure what you can, when you can. But the city will be uninhabitable for a very long time.
I cannot imagine Aransas Pass or Lamar Penninsula being any better. I have heard that Port Aransas is bad, but it doesn't look as bad as Rockport. But I don't know if that's accurate or not.
There is not a Live Oak tree in Aransas County that has any leaves left on it. Really creepy.
We evacuated Corpus on Friday am to the Valley. I went back yesterday to check on things and our house is fine with no damage. Just need power.
I went to Rockport to check on my Mom's house. They live in the Country Club. Their house is fine, as is most of that neighborhood. However the rest of the city is catastrophic. I cannot explain how bad it is. 50 to 70% of all buildings have extreme structural damage, including most of the businesses. Residences are about 50/50. Those closer to the water, and around the high school are total losses. If you had an older house not built to modern windstorm standards, it is likely a total loss. The area between Rockport and AP is very bad, with nearly all houses totally gone, or with only a partial wall remaining.
I did not go to Key Allegro or Fulton Beach.
If you have property, go check and secure what you can, when you can. But the city will be uninhabitable for a very long time.
I cannot imagine Aransas Pass or Lamar Penninsula being any better. I have heard that Port Aransas is bad, but it doesn't look as bad as Rockport. But I don't know if that's accurate or not.
There is not a Live Oak tree in Aransas County that has any leaves left on it. Really creepy.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:14 pm to The Balinese Club
Current projection is that Harvey is in fact coming back and hitting us as a TS on Wednesday....awesome
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:21 pm to WestCoastAg
This storm will rival Katrina when it is over. Houston is now getting what NOLA when the levies broke.
Let's just all pray for everyone's safety.
Let's just all pray for everyone's safety.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:24 pm to The Balinese Club
At least the death toll won't be anywhere near Katrina
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
We're lucky Houston didn't get the cat 4 hurricane. I have a feeling the death toll would be similar
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:31 pm to WestCoastAg
I doubt it
NOLA is just a much poorer city with far more old, unstable structures. Also, the differences between flooding due to heavy rain and that due to a levee system failing are significant. The water rose to dangerous levels much faster in NOLA and unlike Houston there was no drainage whatsoever.
In Katrina people were actually dying in their homes because the water rose so fast, which is unusual. Flood deaths are usually almost exclusively outside of the home.
Once the rain stops Houston will be dry within 36 hours. Katrina left standing flood waters for WEEKS in some areas.
NOLA is just a much poorer city with far more old, unstable structures. Also, the differences between flooding due to heavy rain and that due to a levee system failing are significant. The water rose to dangerous levels much faster in NOLA and unlike Houston there was no drainage whatsoever.
In Katrina people were actually dying in their homes because the water rose so fast, which is unusual. Flood deaths are usually almost exclusively outside of the home.
Once the rain stops Houston will be dry within 36 hours. Katrina left standing flood waters for WEEKS in some areas.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:33 pm to WestCoastAg
If the storm would have made landfall in Corpus it would have been like Katrina. We would have had mass casualties and half the city homeless. The mayor chose not to evacuate the city, and he's thumping his chest now about being correct. Over half of our city lives at or below the poverty line. Had we experienced a category 4 eyewall it would have been like Katrina in Corpus Christi.
He didn't even have a fricking shelter open. The Nueces County OEM and the school district ran busses to San Antonio, but the mayor didn't tell anyone to leave.
He needs to drive to Rockport to see what a fricking moron he was.
He didn't even have a fricking shelter open. The Nueces County OEM and the school district ran busses to San Antonio, but the mayor didn't tell anyone to leave.
He needs to drive to Rockport to see what a fricking moron he was.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
Then the mosquitoes or come after it drains
They're going to be bad
They're going to be bad
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:28 pm to Old Sarge
I'm in Cypress and I'm worried about taking water tonight... 
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:22 pm to Jobu93
My brother in Cypress said the same...said his house has been fine so far, but tonight it's starting to concern him. Be safe y'all.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:18 am to agalloch
Our friends in Dickinson got out by boat but their house is literally underwater (all you can see is the roof and attic windows). My buddy who is from NOLA and lived through Katrina in HS said that, while that was worse from a loss of life standpoint, the sheer volume of rain doesn't even compare. Just hours of the hardest unrelenting rain he's ever seen.
This is the most devastating flooding in US history from the perspective of number of individuals effected.
This is the most devastating flooding in US history from the perspective of number of individuals effected.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:20 pm to agalloch
Levee on the Brazos in Richmond failed this afternoon, mandatory evacuation underway
Posted on 8/28/17 at 2:11 pm to The Balinese Club
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If the storm would have made landfall in Corpus it would have been like Katrina. We would have had mass casualties and half the city homeless. The mayor chose not to evacuate the city, and he's thumping his chest now about being correct. Over half of our city lives at or below the poverty line. Had we experienced a category 4 eyewall it would have been like Katrina in Corpus Christi.
I'm assuming his reasoning is he didn't want things to end up like Rita where the roads were so gridlocked that people were dying in their cars from heat exhaustion. Also, had the roads been stuck at a standstill and the flooding come that could have potentially been a hell of a lot more people dead from drowning who were trapped on the highway.
TBH, there really is no good evacuation plan possible for down there. There are just too many people to move out.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:50 pm to Roger Klarvin
I'm friends with a dumb bitch who evacuated TO Dickinson.
We are just flooded and land locked.
We are just flooded and land locked.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:13 pm to Dr RC
I totally disagree. Corpus Christi has an easy way to evacuate to SA and Austin. I37 can be contraflowed, and CCISD can (and did) run their busses. Our city has planned for and designed many evacuation scenarios. We can stage evacuations, we can do it in waves, etc.
The point is that not a single shelter was opened by the city. He played Russian Roulette and got lucky. Many people have to simply be told to leave, especially poor people. I am middle class, and I will make the best decision for my family because I have resources, reliable transportation, and I will not have to rely on the government unless it is a catastrophic calamity.
Many of our residents don't have enough spare change to fill up the car to leave, much less get a hotel room and pay for restaurants out of town for a week. I also have flood, wind, and homeowners insurance.
When over half of your city lives at or below the poverty line, you evacuate it.
Our mayor made a stupid decision and he needs to be held accountable. One jog to the west and a Cat 4 eyewall would have killed a lot of folks. Going to Rockport on Saturday really opened my eyes.
The point is that not a single shelter was opened by the city. He played Russian Roulette and got lucky. Many people have to simply be told to leave, especially poor people. I am middle class, and I will make the best decision for my family because I have resources, reliable transportation, and I will not have to rely on the government unless it is a catastrophic calamity.
Many of our residents don't have enough spare change to fill up the car to leave, much less get a hotel room and pay for restaurants out of town for a week. I also have flood, wind, and homeowners insurance.
When over half of your city lives at or below the poverty line, you evacuate it.
Our mayor made a stupid decision and he needs to be held accountable. One jog to the west and a Cat 4 eyewall would have killed a lot of folks. Going to Rockport on Saturday really opened my eyes.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:23 pm to The Balinese Club
My friends and family are all still a okay.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:37 am to trickydick12
Most everyone is. We were really very lucky.
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