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Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:54 pm
that maybe this year we lost 80pct of an oline, a quarterback and various defensive pieces and subsequently dont have the team we wanted?
Meanwhile, an agent does his job to max his clients income. It is neither the agent nor the clients duty not to. Its the school's job to balk.
Recruiting has stepped up a lot and key coaches are clearly a step up.
I guess where I am at is we have an upgraded situation relative to the vast majority of programs that for various reasons isnt generating the results we want. But for the most part, nobody has a better idea as tobhow to get it done. That happens. Jimbo isnt the big problem and replacing him isnt the solution.
But why
Because cyclical, or highly variant results have been the rule for all but very very few forever. Even high end programs have to try to time a team to compete with those elite who just constantly turn over talent. They then get frustrated in between. Frustration beingbrelative to expense and expectations.
The elite never have a green line because they can rep the youngsters in without being destroyed. Same with other positions. It is part of why when they dont win in Q1-3, they do in Q4. We are recruiting better but not at that level yet. We NEED our 1's on the field, and without them we pay the price. So we keep them there, and wake up with inexperience when they leave or get hurt.
How do you become one of those withoit these issues? Same way most get rich here...you inherit it. Or you chip away at it, and catch a break. Or keep chipping and hope. And maybe it falls together. Or get lucky AF.
But with the recent changes, that wont matter, because its a new game. CFB is the G-League with more viewers.
In the current system, particularly in the NIL age, paying coaches is only part of that. Now, players dont want a new car, or 10k an interview at A&M when they know a guy gets a mil at Ohio State.
But for a resource heavy school like A&M, this is good news.
So we need to play those rules, and pay EVERYBODY. Because Bama will. Georgia will. USC will (remember them?) Texas will. LSU and most others, even those who are currently right up there, simply can't. We can.
Jimbo's decision on a field goal, or Calzada not being the guy is just a distraction.
Meanwhile, an agent does his job to max his clients income. It is neither the agent nor the clients duty not to. Its the school's job to balk.
Recruiting has stepped up a lot and key coaches are clearly a step up.
I guess where I am at is we have an upgraded situation relative to the vast majority of programs that for various reasons isnt generating the results we want. But for the most part, nobody has a better idea as tobhow to get it done. That happens. Jimbo isnt the big problem and replacing him isnt the solution.
But why
Because cyclical, or highly variant results have been the rule for all but very very few forever. Even high end programs have to try to time a team to compete with those elite who just constantly turn over talent. They then get frustrated in between. Frustration beingbrelative to expense and expectations.
The elite never have a green line because they can rep the youngsters in without being destroyed. Same with other positions. It is part of why when they dont win in Q1-3, they do in Q4. We are recruiting better but not at that level yet. We NEED our 1's on the field, and without them we pay the price. So we keep them there, and wake up with inexperience when they leave or get hurt.
How do you become one of those withoit these issues? Same way most get rich here...you inherit it. Or you chip away at it, and catch a break. Or keep chipping and hope. And maybe it falls together. Or get lucky AF.
But with the recent changes, that wont matter, because its a new game. CFB is the G-League with more viewers.
In the current system, particularly in the NIL age, paying coaches is only part of that. Now, players dont want a new car, or 10k an interview at A&M when they know a guy gets a mil at Ohio State.
But for a resource heavy school like A&M, this is good news.
So we need to play those rules, and pay EVERYBODY. Because Bama will. Georgia will. USC will (remember them?) Texas will. LSU and most others, even those who are currently right up there, simply can't. We can.
Jimbo's decision on a field goal, or Calzada not being the guy is just a distraction.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 10:12 pm
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:27 am to socal91
Yes I think it's pretty clear the O-line losses from last year plus moving to a new QB and now a second string one at that, we arent as good as thought we'd be. Sad to say it but even though we were ready for Mond to move on, we'd probably be 5-0 right now with him at QB, even with our sub par o-line. Probably 4-1 or 5-0 with King I think as well. Calzada is a nice kid, but he just isnt a gamer.
The raise I dont blame on Fisher or his agent, A&M has to look at whats best for itself and do a better job of reading the situation. He was already one of the highest paid coaches in CFB, was someone really going to steal him? I dont think so, so not sure why we agreed to the raise. But thats A&M, we do dumb things like give national championship trophies with blank dates and other cringeworthy stuff. We need new leadership at the top, its as simple as that.
I havent been happy with how hes managed this season so far, but I'm still on the Jimbo train. I just dont see a better guaranteed coach out there we could get that would be a for sure upgrade. Look at what the sips did with Mack brown and how they've been wandering through the proverbial coaching desert ever since (I dont think Sark is going to be a long time). Remember, the grass isnt always greener on the other side, so be careful what you wish for.
And all the coaching talk is moot at this point, with that extension Jimbo is gonna be here for at least another 3-5 years now, so theres no point in speculating anyways. Nobody else is gonna offer a higher contract and we probably cant buy him out until it comes down a bit, so bitch and moan all people want, the dude is going to be here. Might as well support him and the program and hope he gets it figured out.
The raise I dont blame on Fisher or his agent, A&M has to look at whats best for itself and do a better job of reading the situation. He was already one of the highest paid coaches in CFB, was someone really going to steal him? I dont think so, so not sure why we agreed to the raise. But thats A&M, we do dumb things like give national championship trophies with blank dates and other cringeworthy stuff. We need new leadership at the top, its as simple as that.
I havent been happy with how hes managed this season so far, but I'm still on the Jimbo train. I just dont see a better guaranteed coach out there we could get that would be a for sure upgrade. Look at what the sips did with Mack brown and how they've been wandering through the proverbial coaching desert ever since (I dont think Sark is going to be a long time). Remember, the grass isnt always greener on the other side, so be careful what you wish for.
And all the coaching talk is moot at this point, with that extension Jimbo is gonna be here for at least another 3-5 years now, so theres no point in speculating anyways. Nobody else is gonna offer a higher contract and we probably cant buy him out until it comes down a bit, so bitch and moan all people want, the dude is going to be here. Might as well support him and the program and hope he gets it figured out.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:43 am to Texas Gentleman
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Nobody else is gonna offer a higher contract and we probably cant buy him out until it comes down a bit, so bitch and moan all people want, the dude is going to be here. Might as well support him and the program and hope he gets it figured out.
There is no penalty if he leaves, so an alternative is to make him so miserable that he takes another job, such as USC or LSU.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:57 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Many people (myself included) would put up with a lot of shite for 9 mil a year, my guess is Jimbo will too. So dont hold your breath.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:16 am to socal91
Every team loses kids to graduation/injury/whatever. Our o-line is worse than any of the teams we’ve played so far - that’s on coaching.
Having a backup QB that’s been with you for 2+ years and can’t execute - that’s on coaching.
Having a backup QB that’s been with you for 2+ years and can’t execute - that’s on coaching.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:44 am to Pvt Hudson
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Every team loses kids to graduation/injury/whatever. Our o-line is worse than any of the teams we’ve played so far - that’s on coaching
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It is but its also on not having enough elite guys to be able to split reps without a dropoff. We get more high end guys than most, but fewer than we need given the competition we have. Injury has been rough on the line, as has dufusses who thought they were ready to go pro but werent. didnt help anyone.
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Having a backup QB that’s been with you for 2+ years and can’t execute - that’s on coaching.
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Or you have really missed either on evaluations or on getting the guys you want. I think the portal has really wrinkled this up, and ultimately it may hurt Fisher more than most coaches. Top kids want to play now. His system is not conducive to that, as it sits. The sign that Calzada wasnt the guy was the fact he didnt bolt when he lost the job.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:51 am to socal91
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not having enough elite guys to be able to split reps without a dropoff.
I don’t think that explains why we’d be willing to swap lines with with Kent or Ms State that seemed to hold their own against our “elite” d-line.
Agree with your QB assessment. A kid fresh off a spring competition for the starting job should look better when called upon in game 2.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:11 pm to socal91
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Every team loses kids to graduation/injury/whatever. Our o-line is worse than any of the teams we’ve played so far - that’s on coaching
Do you see any coaching changes there as a result?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:34 pm to socal91
Kirby Smart just prison raped Arkansas with a second string qb and re-tooled Oline.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:08 pm to Masterag
That second string QB played a ton of snaps last year. And he sucked at the beginning of last year as well
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:56 pm to ColoradoAg
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Kirby Smart just prison raped Arkansas with a second string qb and re-tooled Oline.
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Thats my point. Our 1s might stack up to theirs, but our 2's don't. Our dropoff is far more precipitous.
Kirby Smart just prison raped Arkansas with a second string qb and re-tooled Oline.
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Thats my point. Our 1s might stack up to theirs, but our 2's don't. Our dropoff is far more precipitous.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:18 pm to socal91
The Jimbo contract is overblown and misunderstood because the number seems so big. Here is the reality.
Jimbo isn't getting fired for at least the next 3 years barring cause. We would be fools to fire him prior to that anyway because there isn't a better solution.
In 3 years we would still owe Jimbo a ton of money in theory but let's assume we fire him. Almost certainly we agree to some terms that lowers the amount. Even if not though A&M is making about $50 million in profit right now annually. At the same time we are due for 2 MAJOR pay days in the next few years.
Pay day 1: New SEC contract with Texas and OU joining. Long term cash on its way with that and with the SEC likely to win another Natty this year and who knows when that ends that amount just keeps getting bigger.
Pay day 2: The seat options for the New Kyle were for 10 or 15 years depending on the seats. Those options are going to start coming up soon and you will have those renewals at even bigger numbers. Oh, and A&M will be adding the Texas game back into the season ticket package. With 500k Living Alumni and 14k new ones being created every year and an average salary well over $100k for those alumni that means a LOT of money coming our way. Oh, and they are going to redo the South End Zone 2nd Deck to make it into another high dollar area. All of that sucks for the regular guy fan but the program is going to make some serious, serious money in the next few years and for the long term.
So writing a check for $60 million and then going out an buying another bigtime new coach is very doable if need be. My guess is the program is going to rocket past $300 million in revenue in the near future. It's mind boggling the amount of cash we have to work with and no, it hasn't ever been this way before.
Jimbo isn't getting fired for at least the next 3 years barring cause. We would be fools to fire him prior to that anyway because there isn't a better solution.
In 3 years we would still owe Jimbo a ton of money in theory but let's assume we fire him. Almost certainly we agree to some terms that lowers the amount. Even if not though A&M is making about $50 million in profit right now annually. At the same time we are due for 2 MAJOR pay days in the next few years.
Pay day 1: New SEC contract with Texas and OU joining. Long term cash on its way with that and with the SEC likely to win another Natty this year and who knows when that ends that amount just keeps getting bigger.
Pay day 2: The seat options for the New Kyle were for 10 or 15 years depending on the seats. Those options are going to start coming up soon and you will have those renewals at even bigger numbers. Oh, and A&M will be adding the Texas game back into the season ticket package. With 500k Living Alumni and 14k new ones being created every year and an average salary well over $100k for those alumni that means a LOT of money coming our way. Oh, and they are going to redo the South End Zone 2nd Deck to make it into another high dollar area. All of that sucks for the regular guy fan but the program is going to make some serious, serious money in the next few years and for the long term.
So writing a check for $60 million and then going out an buying another bigtime new coach is very doable if need be. My guess is the program is going to rocket past $300 million in revenue in the near future. It's mind boggling the amount of cash we have to work with and no, it hasn't ever been this way before.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:33 pm to aggressor
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The Jimbo contract is overblown
Yes, it is
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