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re: I'm curious how the Ark will react if we go 9-3 but the final loss is a blowout to LSU?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The next time Ole Miss went to Bryant Denney, they lost 66-3.
Congrats for being able to change your own narrative so seamlessly! What happened to "Should NEVER be acceptable under any circumstances."?
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:10 pm to finestfirst79
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Congrats for being able to change your own narrative so seamlessly!
It's the CG way.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:23 pm to finestfirst79
Idealy our win percentages would be for teams we play every year
Alabama 25 (until Saban leaves no one will consistently beat him)
Arkansas 100 (could change if they hire another coach as good as Petrino)
Auburn 75
LSU 50(will change based on how we do this year and how quickly they change coaches again, the amount of talent in Louisiana should keep them as a tough but beatable opponent)
Ole Miss 95
Miss State 95
South Carolina 100
And 9-3 would be our floor for the year depending on the other east team
I think everyone should be happy with this win percentage if we go to a SEC championship game every 4 year's or so. We just have to find the coach that's capable of getting us there. Who that coach is I have no idea.
Alabama 25 (until Saban leaves no one will consistently beat him)
Arkansas 100 (could change if they hire another coach as good as Petrino)
Auburn 75
LSU 50(will change based on how we do this year and how quickly they change coaches again, the amount of talent in Louisiana should keep them as a tough but beatable opponent)
Ole Miss 95
Miss State 95
South Carolina 100
And 9-3 would be our floor for the year depending on the other east team
I think everyone should be happy with this win percentage if we go to a SEC championship game every 4 year's or so. We just have to find the coach that's capable of getting us there. Who that coach is I have no idea.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:38 pm to finestfirst79
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Congrats for being able to change your own narrative so seamlessly! What happened to "Should NEVER be acceptable under any circumstances."?
I was responding to the question, "what happened next"?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:58 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Is AstroAg Billy luicci? 
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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I was responding to the question, "what happened next"?
Nice deflection, but OK. I'm sure we'd all love to hear your opinion on that dipshit loser coach Nick Saban, whose team lost to Ole Miss at home in 2015. That's never acceptable under any circumstances, right?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 7:07 pm to Old Sarge
To answer the question, I'll be sad but my level of butthurt will depend on how the blowout happens and how good they are coming into the game.
For example, I'd be way more upset with getting romped all game vs a gradual double digit loss caused by a bunch of unforced turnovers.
As a general guide
A loss to an LSU team coming in with
5-6 wins -
7 wins -
8 wins -
9 wins -
Any win regardless of record
frick LSU
For example, I'd be way more upset with getting romped all game vs a gradual double digit loss caused by a bunch of unforced turnovers.
As a general guide
A loss to an LSU team coming in with
5-6 wins -
7 wins -
8 wins -
9 wins -
Any win regardless of record
frick LSU This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:32 pm to Old Sarge
Unless Sumlin wins out he needs to be fired. He won't be at 9-3, but he should.
I still maintain he should be fired even at 10-2 in general principle for the UCLA game but of course that won't happen.
Best case scenario may be going 9-3 and him leaving for Arizona or ASU. No buyout, new coach, everyone but the most cuckold of Aggies are happy.
I still maintain he should be fired even at 10-2 in general principle for the UCLA game but of course that won't happen.
Best case scenario may be going 9-3 and him leaving for Arizona or ASU. No buyout, new coach, everyone but the most cuckold of Aggies are happy.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
We'd never get a good coach ever again
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I still maintain he should be fired even at 10-2 in general principle for the UCLA game but of course that won't happen.
Jesus Christ
Take a step back and try and wrap your head around the business of college football for once.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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I still maintain he should be fired even at 10-2 in general principle for the UCLA game but of course that won't happen.
Correct.
59-0 and a 34 point comeback, there is no reason he should be our coach after this season.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:09 am to Warrior Poet
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Jesus Christ
Take a step back and try and wrap your head around the business of college football for once.
I said he should be fired after 59-0 and ended up second guessing myself.
I'm not getting fooled again. There are too many data points.
It would take SEVERAL great years before I bought into Sumlin again.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 2:21 am to Roger Klarvin
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I'm not getting fooled again.
This is what is happening to our entire fan base it seems. A couple wins against mediocre competition and "Sumlin deserves more time" again or "there is no good candidate available".
They are blind to the circle they are stuck in.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:08 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
This is why I wanted him let go after ucla, there were only negative outcomes of postponing. He continues to lose and we delay the inevitable, he wins enough to make us look bad for firing him, or he wins enough we absolutely have to keep him and coast for at least another year.
There is some young talent on this team, and a coaching change now would probably keep starkel and mond around at least until next summer, trying to win the job.
give the next guy a head start instead of burying our heads in the sand until we have to make a change and the next guy is fighting uphill.
There is some young talent on this team, and a coaching change now would probably keep starkel and mond around at least until next summer, trying to win the job.
give the next guy a head start instead of burying our heads in the sand until we have to make a change and the next guy is fighting uphill.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:03 am to Nguyening
What scares me the most is he will go 9-3 this year, so he gets next year as he’s now “improving”. Then next year with the now older talent and still a mediocre SEC he wins 10 games, gets an extension, hype for the next season. And then falls flat on his face again and goes back to winning 8 games. Then the sunshine pumpers still look for every excuse to give him another season or two just because he might get back to 10 wins.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:23 am to Texas Gentleman
9-4 (6-2) & 10-3 (6-2) (guessing we don't be Clemson) are decent enough years to keep someone around. It's not like 10 win season grow on trees for us and SECW teams.
16: only Bama
15: Bama & Ole Miss
14: Bama & State
13: Auburn, Bama, LSU
12: Bama & A&M
Usually, it is right at 10 (10-3) and no one seems to be able to repeat it except for Bama.
In the scenario above we are assuming bowl losses. If he goes 9-3 this year & 10-2 next then he might end of with 10-3 & 11-2. Those are top 10 type teams. Why on earth would you not want to extend him at that point? Because there may be a drop-off?
16: only Bama
15: Bama & Ole Miss
14: Bama & State
13: Auburn, Bama, LSU
12: Bama & A&M
Usually, it is right at 10 (10-3) and no one seems to be able to repeat it except for Bama.
In the scenario above we are assuming bowl losses. If he goes 9-3 this year & 10-2 next then he might end of with 10-3 & 11-2. Those are top 10 type teams. Why on earth would you not want to extend him at that point? Because there may be a drop-off?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:37 am to Farmer1906
Because I know what kind of coach he is. An average (8-4) type of coach that might have an outlier good season (10+ wins) every 6 or 7 years. That’s not going to win you championships. We have enough data at this point, he’s not the guy even if he does get a second fools gold season or two because the SEC is really down.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:19 pm to Texas Gentleman
It's important to note 2012 was an interesting year for our schedule as well. State was normal state, ole miss wasn't cheating enough yet, Arkansas was god awful, auburn was checked out.
We brought back most of a top 10 team talent level, minus a qb and just so happened to have a heisman qb fall in our lap.
We played 3 teams with more talent then us and went 1-2.
It was a hell of a lot of fun but it was fools gold in hindsight.
We brought back most of a top 10 team talent level, minus a qb and just so happened to have a heisman qb fall in our lap.
We played 3 teams with more talent then us and went 1-2.
It was a hell of a lot of fun but it was fools gold in hindsight.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 2:14 pm to Farmer1906
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If he goes 9-3 this year & 10-2 next then he might end of with 10-3 & 11-2. Those are top 10 type teams. Why on earth would you not want to extend him at that point? Because there may be a drop-off?
Wanted to address this more specifically.
That’s my point, you have to extend him if he wins 9 and 10+, but then I’m afraid of a drop off again after that. Why? Because his average season right now is 8 wins, why wouldn’t he return to the mean? I’ve yet to see anything from him that shows he sustain a high success rate at a big program. From retaining bad coordinators too long, mismanaging 5 Star QBs, and just now learning how to run a clock down in the 4th quarter after losing a 34 point lead, he has done nothing to show me he can lead this program to a championship.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:03 pm to Texas Gentleman
He's also coaching for his (next?) job right now. Guys who only perform in their contract year aren't worth the paper the contract is written on.
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