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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
Did Gaines tutor students?


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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
I honestly dont know a single person who ever did that but I know people still did cause I used to walk by his statue every day


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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
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I honestly dont know a single person who ever did that but I know people still did cause I used to walk by his statue every day


Full disclosure: I only ever had one class in the Academic Building.


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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
Y'all do know I'm just trolling, right? . It's wasn't a serious question.


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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
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There is a kind of virtue that is cheap. It consists of jumping on cost-free bandwagons of public feeling—perhaps even deeply justified public feeling—and winning approval by espousing the right opinion. No one who wishes the College to issue statements is assumed to be a party to such behavior. But the fact that very real racial problems are now being cynically exploited for profit, gain, and public favor by some organizations and people is impossible to overlook. It is a scandal and a shame that compounds our ills and impedes their correction.


Stole this from the Poli Board (I know). It’s a statement from Hillsdale College and I think it is relevant here. The statue of Sully oppresses no one. Blacks aren’t prohibited from attending A&M, and they aren’t charged higher fees, made to take additional classes or given a less-meaningful degree than other students.

The fact that this debate is occurring based on the opinion of a young black man whose relevance should be no greater than any other student - yet is because he is black and can throw a football - speaks to an absence of racism rather than proving it exists.

Removing Sully will do nothing to help black people. It simply erodes a reminder of who we are as Aggies - and that as flawed as we may be as human beings, we have the opportunity to achieve, be forgiven, and live our lives in pursuit of a net-positive for our fellow man.


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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
I didn't take that any way. I just always thought to myself "who is doing this" when I walked by it


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Texas Weazel
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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
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The statue of Sully oppresses no one. Blacks aren’t prohibited from attending A&M, and they aren’t charged higher fees, made to take additional classes or given a less-meaningful degree than other students.

Not really a strong argument since it can be twisted the other way as well. If Sully is removed, no one would be prohibited from attending the University, charged higher fees, made to take additional classes, or given a less meaningful degree. A campus without a Sully statue isn't going to diminish the quality of education.

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If Sully is removed, no one would be prohibited from attending the University, charged higher fees, made to take additional classes, or given a less meaningful degree. A campus without a Sully statue isn't going to diminish the quality of education.


It will, however, remove scholarships from potential deserving cadets.

It won't just stop at the removal of the statue. Sul Ross Scholarships, which (at least when I went through) are worth $8,000 or more, are provided by the Corps of Cadets Association, a nonprofit that isn't subordinate to the school or the state. Donations dry up = fewer scholarships = fewer opportunities.

The Woke-S-S won't just stop at the statue. They will want anything and everything ever associated with Ross removed and erased.
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Pvt Hudson
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re: And with that, we’re at war (Sul Ross statue vandalized)
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A campus without a Sully statue isn't going to diminish the quality of education.


It diminishes the identity of us as Aggies. I could have earned my business degree anywhere, but a significant part of who I am (Rather than what I know) came to be at Texas A&M.

I didn’t understand the importance of that in HS when I chose where to get my degree. I went to Baylor because they gave me a scholarship. It took a year to figure out the values I believed in and the people I wanted to be like were at A&M, so I transferred.

You can strip all the statues, names and history from every institution for one reason or another - and make them all generic. You may be able to argue that will bring about true “equality” - but it is something I hope does not occur.


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