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re: Justus Terry has committed to Texas
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:That may be true to some extent, (especially for athletes in women's or Olympic sports) but having a pre-established relationship can pay off big if the player goes pro and becomes a star. All it takes is a couple of those and it's all worth it in the end.
My point is that brands are likely to stop doing this when they realize consumers don’t actually know who these players are.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:55 pm to 49 to nada
Bijan's Dijon
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:57 pm to koreandawg
Don't kid yourself, if it was money, you didn't have a chance.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Maybe. But, that's where the school's bump can help out these kids quite a bit.
My point is that brands are likely to stop doing this when they realize consumers don’t actually know who these players are.
For example, few will ever know the name of the UT volleyball player in the Marriott commercial, but they made sure to include the Longhorn logo as part of her appearance. Bose (football with Banks), Ralph Lauren (track with Hurley) & H-E-B (volleyball with Skinner) followed a similar path.
That combo is sustainable as it's a win for school, athlete & brand.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:59 pm to Old1937
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:09 pm to Wanruningchen
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:10 pm to TexasOnTop
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The brands know this... They don't care because they are alumni who want to see the program succeed.
Right, but some of the ones you listed are public companies. They have to answer to shareholders and boards. Even for private companies, flushing money down the toilet eventually will cause problems. Businesses have to turn a profit or they won’t stay businesses very long.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:14 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Right, but some of the ones you listed are public companies.
Public companies spend money on stupid shite all the time. As long as their stock price holds or goes up, a couple million isn't moving the needle.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:18 pm to aero1126
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This is the dumbest take, since NIL there has been more parity than ever. Before NIL, it was already predominantly 3 teams getting the best recruits (AL, GA, OSU).
Sounds like someone is just salty they don't have the recruit monopoly anymore.
There are already examples of what this type of sports league looks like though, see MLB & Euro Soccer. The same teams constantly dominate, year after year. And MLB in particular already has even more restrictions than modern CFB, plus contracts and realistic free agency.
What do you believe would cause CFB to take a different path?? The NFL, renowned for its parity, has had salary caps for ages now.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:20 pm to Dawg4Life47
U take great solace in seeing whiny teams who for years dropped bags to buy teams now crying when it’s legit to do so
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:20 pm to TexasOnTop
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Public companies spend money on stupid shite all the time. As long as their stock price holds or goes up, a couple million isn't moving the needle.
No, but they also have board members and key employees from lots of different schools who won’t take kindly to consistently playing favorites with one school over another.
I understand the exuberance and “newness” of NIL over the past few years but have extreme doubts that there’s a sustainable NIL marketplace in the $10s of millions per year at any college through legitimate companies.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:20 pm to Bigdawgb
Bear 2.0
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:23 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:It’s the same as the national commercials featuring Georgia & Bama. It’s just that we’ve chosen to leverage that platform to improve our student-athlete NIL instead of the athletic program getting that $$$.
Right, but some of the ones you listed are public companies. They have to answer to shareholders and boards. Even for private companies, flushing money down the toilet eventually will cause problems. Businesses have to turn a profit or they won’t stay businesses very long.
There’s not a right or wrong here. Just different approaches.
quote:The $25-30 million payroll for football is going to soon come from TV revenue sharing. Athletic departments will probably have to cut staff, facility spending & maybe even some sports to make it work. But, that reallocation of resources will be necessary to keep football at an elite level.
I understand the exuberance and “newness” of NIL over the past few years but have extreme doubts that there’s a sustainable NIL marketplace in the $10s of millions per year at any college through legitimate companies
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:27 pm to FellowChampHooked
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U take great solace in seeing whiny teams who for years dropped bags to buy teams now crying when it’s legit to do so
I love how all the teams who used to not compete are acting like they played by all the rules and only a few didn’t. Bamas got no dog in this fight over this kid but to suggest Georgia and Bama who dominated recruiting with NCs and superb coaching were the only ones bending or breaking rules is laughable.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:37 pm to Wanruningchen
Texas is stacking good players.
Sarkisian is one of the best ocs around.
Texas is going to be a problem.
Sarkisian is one of the best ocs around.
Texas is going to be a problem.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:38 pm to labamafan
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I love how all the teams who used to not compete are acting like they played by all the rules and only a few didn’t. Bamas got no dog in this fight over this kid but to suggest Georgia and Bama who dominated recruiting with NCs and superb coaching were the only ones bending or breaking rules is laughable.
Nobody is claiming other programs didn't break the rules. It's just absolutely hilarious now that programs like Bama and Georgia are getting money whipped (and that's what this recruitment was), they now have an issue with it.
As a Bama fan, you should love NIL. Bama would not have signed a top 5 class this year without it.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:38 pm to BevoBucks
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The $25-30 million payroll for football is going to soon come from TV revenue sharing. Athletic departments will probably have to cut staff, facility spending & maybe even some sports to make it work. But, that reallocation of resources will be necessary to keep football at an elite level.
I’m not arguing for or against this piece. Revenue sharing is a different bucket. I’m saying that I don’t think any college can rely on local businesses to give them a long term NIL advantage in the form of legitimate marketing deals because so few players are actually marketable.
For a UGA or UT, you might have a QB and one other player that are somewhat regionally known and then a few players with enough local recognition to be useful to a local car dealership or something. Beyond that, the actual marketing value of the individual players is basically zero. I bet the average Austin resident couldn’t name 2 Texas players.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:51 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:That’s why you allow the school’s brand to be included as part of the deal. Not everybody’s comfortable with that, and I understand why. But, it’s a real way to up your NIL offerings without begging the fanbase for yet more $. Plus, it has the added benefit of tying kids potential earnings to them remaining at UT.
Beyond that, the actual marketing value of the individual players is basically zero.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:15 pm to Wanruningchen
Good get Horns. This one does hurt. Sucks to be a favorite for 5-6 years then this but hard to hate if you simply got beat.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:35 pm to houstonearler
Many of our insiders think this is a miss but not as bad as other misses in the class.
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