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re: Arik Gilbert enters the portal

Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:24 am to
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:24 am to
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The kid is weird

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How so?

He's weird because LSU totally flubbed how they handled his situation. If the rumors of what really happened are true, then LSU should have just treated him like an injured player and said nothing. Instead, LSU said he was considering opting out because he was "sore". Then all of the mouth breathers on the rant (and even local media) went nuts calling him a soft quitter and talking all kinds of shite about him.

The SITUATION is weird for sure, but a lot of the weirdness is on LSU's handling of it.
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:24 am to
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If the rumors of what really happened are true, then LSU should have just treated him like an injured player and said nothing. Instead, LSU said he was considering opting out because he was "sore". Then all of the mouth breathers on the rant (and even local media) went nuts calling him a soft quitter and talking all kinds of shite about him.

The SITUATION is weird for sure, but a lot of the weirdness is on LSU's handling of it.


If they would have treated him like an injured player, then speculation would have run rampant anyway. Orgeron was just trying to protect him and keep him from embarrassment. It backfired because the excuse was lame. True maybe, but lame. Hence the “soft” and “quitter” attacks.

But, after the original snafu, once they realized the extent of their mistake (former players attacking Gilbert on social media), they have handled matters admirably. They haven’t even pulled his financial aid, which is almost always done once a player enters the portal.

However, once his situation was more widely known, it has mostly been the media and fans’ reactions driving the attacks and making the situation worse.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:33 am to
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He's weird because LSU totally flubbed how they handled his situation. If the rumors of what really happened are true, then LSU should have just treated him like an injured player and said nothing. Instead, LSU said he was considering opting out because he was "sore". Then all of the mouth breathers on the rant (and even local media) went nuts calling him a soft quitter and talking all kinds of shite about him.

The SITUATION is weird for sure, but a lot of the weirdness is on LSU's handling of it.



FWIW, what I have heard is he was homesick. Unable to go home much during the year due to covid and distance, etc. IF this is true, I can see him saying he was sore, because it sounds better than saying "I'm homesick."
Just a guess on my part, though. It seems most of the stuff some people (Not you) are going by is what posters are saying on twitter and on this board. Those are not good things to make an opinion around.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:38 am to
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If they would have treated him like an injured player, then speculation would have run rampant anyway.

I get it and see your point, but the speculation would not have been sprinkled with stuff that any person would find insulting. Stuff like:
He's Bi-Polar
He's soft.
He's addicted/drugs
Stuff like that.
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Orgeron was just trying to protect him and keep him from embarrassment.
Instead that is exactly what it caused. Saying he is injured would have done the opposite.

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They haven’t even pulled his financial aid, which is almost always done once a player enters the portal.
Are you sure about this? I mean, once in the portal a player can, and has returned to his team and removed their name. You may be privy to other information, but i have not heard of a player having his scholarship revoked just because he entered the portal.
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:07 am to

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that any person would find insulting. Stuff like:
He's Bi-Polar
He's soft.
He's addicted/drugs


That was the narrative from media, former players, and shite fans. Those “fans” are still going on about it.
Heck, I even made a couple of posts about his issues, mostly to defend him from what was being said about him.

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If they would have treated him like an injured player, then speculation would have run rampant anyway.


That’s my quote and it relates to how the football administration has handled things. I think you thought I was referring to others.

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Orgeron was just trying to protect him and keep him from embarrassment.

Instead that is exactly what it caused. Saying he is injured would have done the opposite.


That’s exactly what I said.

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Financial Aid

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Are you sure about this?


It has been reported widely by multiple outlets. Also, Orgeron said it in an interview. I think he’s leaving all avenues open for Gilbert to return, which is smart.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:18 am to
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LSU totally flubbed how they handled his situation

If he ends up coming back, then I don’t see how we could have possibly handled the situation worse
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:32 am to
He’s going to Tennessee.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39970 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:37 pm to
Sure, sure. UT makes sense. They threw the ball even less to the TE this year than UGA and their coach is on the verge of being fired.

Not that any of this makes sense
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Sure, sure. UT makes sense. They threw the ball even less to the TE this year than UGA and their coach is on the verge of being fired.


His high school QB is there.

I have no clue where he ends up, but still I say I hope he works on himself and gets better for sure.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39970 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:12 pm to
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His high school QB is there.


Yep, so is another of his teammates. It still doesn't make much sense with everything going on there. Especially with Bailey's dad saying they committed to Pruitt and not UT.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:23 pm to
Pruitt isn’t going anywhere. He’s gonna be there at least through next season.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14868 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:24 pm to
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Looking like its Tennessee lol

good luck with that


Why not Mizzou? Drinkwitz will used him right away!
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:31 pm to
Gilbert liked a tweet saying he will probably go to Georgia.

0% chance we get him now.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Are you sure about this? I mean, once in the portal a player can, and has returned to his team and removed their name. You may be privy to other information, but i have not heard of a player having his scholarship revoked just because he entered the portal.

Per NCCA bylaws, if a player enters the transfer portal, the school can choose to not renew his scholarship, regardless of whether he actually transfers to another school.

ETA: I'm pretty sure the rule doesn't enable schools to cancel financial aid for the current academic term in which they enter the portal, but does allow them to cancel it for the next term.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Pruitt isn’t going anywhere
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He’s gonna be there at least through next season.

That long, huh?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:07 pm to
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Per NCCA bylaws, if a player enters the transfer portal, the school can choose to not renew his scholarship, regardless of whether he actually transfers to another school.


LSU has apparently kept his financial aid in place, leaving the door open for him to return.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:11 pm to
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Pruitt isn’t going anywhere. He’s gonna be there at least through next season.

Maybe not. UT has an investigation underway, by the same lawyer UT hired to investigate NCAA violations and terminate Bruce Pearl with cause.

Tennessee releases first statement on football investigation (247Sports)
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Under contract until Jan. 2026, Pruitt is entitled to a $12.7 million buyout if terminated without cause.

Tennessee not extending contracts, pauses hiring amid football investigation (espn)

'Difficult' to see Jeremy Pruitt keeping his job (espn)
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Andrew Perloff @andrewperloff
Dan says that he's heard from source that Tennessee football will face a serious investigation. He also said UGA could be next. "I was told Georgia got sloppy in recruiting." @dpshow
8:11 AM · Jan 8, 2021
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39970 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Per NCCA bylaws, if a player enters the transfer portal, the school can choose to not renew his scholarship, regardless of whether he actually transfers to another school.



Clemson is the only team I've seen do that. At least publicly.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2684 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Why not Mizzou? Drinkwitz will used him right away!


Because he’s a 5 Star and wants to go to a relevant program.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:03 pm to
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That was the narrative from media, former players, and shite fans. Those “fans” are still going on about it.
Heck, I even made a couple of posts about his issues, mostly to defend him from what was being said about him.

Okay. Some of it was in this thread. But it doesn't matter who is speculating it....the point is it was speculated because of the way it was handled. Had LSU come out and said, "Gilbert is banged up and we want to give him some extra time to recover and get ready for next year." none of the bad speculation would have happened.
When I made my comment to you, I was not meaning to point a finger at you specifically.

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It has been reported widely by multiple outlets. Also, Orgeron said it in an interview. I think he’s leaving all avenues open for Gilbert to return, which is smart.
You are misunderstanding me. I mean, are you sure it is normal for schools to pull scholarships when a player enters the portal? I've never heard of it happening....at east not until the player leaves, at which point, yes. The school would pull financial aid.
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