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re: And here's Scarbo's take on Philon
Posted on 2/3/12 at 10:59 am to RT1941
Posted on 2/3/12 at 10:59 am to RT1941
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Honestly, I'd think more Aub's would feel the exact same way you do.
Philon had the opportunity to play for AU, he spurned y'all to play for Bama, and he ended up a Hawg.
Why would I hold ill wishes towards a 18 year old kid? Because he decided he didn't want to play football for the University I cheer for? How ridiculous does that sound?
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:00 am to RT1941
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Honestly, I'd think more Aub's would feel the exact same way you do.
I have sympathy for the kid because that is the school he grew up wanting to play for, and thought he had that opportunity. It's not like he spurned us a week or two before signing day.
That being said, I'm glad Chizik didn't extend him another offer when all this went down with Alabama. Glad he got a chance at another SEC school, but even happier it wasn't at Auburn.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:01 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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How ridiculous does that sound?
Too much Bama in some of them.....
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:02 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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The fact is that Alabama got two shinier new toys on Signing Day in Kirven and Tomlinson, and chose to accept both of their committments instead of taking one and politely telling the other that they waited too long. Instead, a recruit who did things the right way and shut his recruiting down when he committed got left out in the cold.
This is it...but until the system is changed there is nothing that can be done about it. Making a recruit sign when he commits would stop this...these kids and their families know Saban before they commit to him...I'm sure other coaches point it out...
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Why would I hold ill wishes towards a 18 year old kid? Because he decided he didn't want to play football for the University I cheer for? How ridiculous does that sound?
You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
How 'bout CyrusK & BrentC from last year? No ill will?
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:05 am to RT1941
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You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
How 'bout CyrusK & BrentC from last year? No ill will?
Why would I? Sure I was upset that we didn't get them, as they are very talented players. Why would I have ill will towards somebody I have never met, probably never will, all for a game of football?
It astounds me how some of you people think.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:06 am to RT1941
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You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
How 'bout CyrusK & BrentC from last year? No ill will?
Nope. Not one bit. I do think the people around those kids could have handled the process better (especially Yeldon).
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:06 am to RT1941
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You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
How 'bout CyrusK & BrentC from last year? No ill will
apples and oranges...the kid didn't get fricked over in that situation
surely you're not so dense as to not see how they are different.
I'm still upset that philon flipped on us (not overly so but wish he had stayed), but i also have sympathy as to what happend to him.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:15 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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We can make excuses and debate it, but the bottom line is this looks bad on Saban and UA. Saban is the best coach in the game, but he needs to change his tactics to prevent this in the future.
I agree with this. I also agree that the only way to prevent this again is to have an early signing period. If he had signed when he committed there would be no problem. Also probably should do away with greyshirting.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:18 am to jatebe
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probably should do away with greyshirting.
I really don't even have a problem with greyshirting, if it is on the table from the beginning.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:19 am to jatebe
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Also probably should do away with greyshirting.
Greyshirting will start phasing out here with the inception of the only 25 rule and no back counting. You limit yourself the next year if you keep a grey shirt commitment
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:19 am to RT1941
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You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
No ill will at all. Wish he would have handled it a little differently, but he's a kid and we have no idea what was going on behind the scenes to cause him to act like that. No biggie though.
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How 'bout CyrusK
Not at all. Hope the kid has a great NFL career one day.
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BrentC from last year?
I was actually relieved when he changed back to y'all if that makes any sense at all. That feeling has since been solidified. I think he'll be at UNA before much longer.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:22 am to jatebe
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I also agree that the only way to prevent this again is to have an early signing period.
I don't understand why there needs to be a "period" at all. If the school wants him as a junior and he wants to go to that school, let him sign.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:23 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I was actually relieved when he changed back to y'all if that makes any sense at all. That feeling has since been solidified. I think he'll be at UNA before much longer.
ha, I posted on here that I didn't want him back. Cyrus yes, Brent no.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:27 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I don't understand why there needs to be a "period" at all. If the school wants him as a junior and he wants to go to that school, let him sign.
The NCAA wants them to have more contact prior to signing. The heavily limit any contact prior to their senior year
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:30 am to NYCAuburn
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The NCAA wants them to have more contact prior to signing. The heavily limit any contact prior to their senior year
Then let them sign anytime they want during their senior year. The kids have to have a parent/guardian signature, so it's not like they run the risk of being pressured to sign right away when they take their first visit. Whoever the parent/guardian is could pump the breaks if that situation arose.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:32 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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You are one of very few AU fans that hold no ill will towards TJ then, right?
No ill will at all. Wish he would have handled it a little differently, but he's a kid and we have no idea what was going on behind the scenes to cause him to act like that. No biggie though.
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How 'bout CyrusK
Not at all. Hope the kid has a great NFL career one day.
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BrentC from last year?
I was actually relieved when he changed back to y'all if that makes any sense at all. That feeling has since been solidified. I think he'll be at UNA before much longer.
This is pretty much sums up how I feel. Calloway was far from being a disappointment. CK ad TJ were disappointing to lose more TJ for obvious reasons. However, I don't hold any malice whatsoever, and wish them well.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:33 am to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:But how do we know what the coach tells the kids when they commit.
I really don't even have a problem with greyshirting, if it is on the table from the beginning.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:39 am to PurpleandGold Motown
It sounds to me like Philin's coach developed a sudden phobia of falling up a flight of stairs.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 11:40 am to jatebe
We don't. I think that it is up to the kid to make sure it is handeled correctly. I get where you are coming from, though. It is a very sticky situation all together.
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