re: 5* EDGE Colin Simmons announces Thursday 8/10 @ 2pm CST

Good get, Geoff Ketchum is saying $1,500,000 was the price for commitment. Should be money well spent

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Facts are facts. That isn’t an indicator of future performance, but it is true Texas has been pretty disappointing over the past decade

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Of course, and recruits aren't oblivious to that. However, the sell of being key contributor to a program trying to change its culture is also a pitch that recruits listen to.

Last year Texas had 5 players drafted and LSU had 6 players drafted. Both look to compete in 2023 with multiple 2024 draft picks on their respective rosters. So saying Texas hasn't had as many guys drafted in 2014 like LSU did is not really relevant.

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He isn’t trolling by pointing out Texas hasn’t won anything of note since 2005

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Saying Texas, a&m and Miami have absolutely "nothing to present to a potential recruit besides money" is definitely trolling, sour grapes, ignorance, or just all of the above

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One player? ok

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Do you not know what the word "unequivocally" means? Re-read the post I was replying to.

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Quit bleeding everywhere Xwing

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Who's bleeding?

Texas just secured a commitment from the No. 1 player in the state of Texas!

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It's not trolling, sour grapes, or ignorance.

It's factual.

LSU is clearly the better choice if you want to play for championships and get drafted, and it has been for over 20 years.

That's just a fact.

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And if you want to be a poor on campus

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No one is bitter. Texas simply paid more. Simmons said so himself.

Congrats on having the bigger pocketbook for him

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Thanks

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Good get, Geoff Ketchum is saying $1,500,000 was the price for commitment.

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holy moly

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I know, right? I can't believe they had a talent like Bijan Robinson go undrafted.

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That's one first rounder in the last 8 drafts.

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Yea, because every single season in the last 25 years for Texas has been their 25 best seasons ever...

Also, you say this as if Kelly and Sarkisian have been at their respective schools for the past 15 years. They haven't. So saying things like "Texas sucked under Charlie Strong, so you shouldn't commit there" or "LSU lost 7 games only 2 years ago, so they're a dumpster" is just silly. Past results are not a crystal ball to what's going to happen in the future, and blaming current coaches for their respective program's prior issues before their tenure there doesn't make a great deal of sense.

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LSU has established themselves, regardless of the coaching staff, as national title contenders for the last 25 years, save 2 years. Texas on the other hand hasn't been consistently good since 2009.

I'm aware that past results are not the end all be all, but you can't discount them completely. One program has shown that outside of COVID and the following year, they haven't had bad seasons. The same cannot be said for Texas.

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Except Texas has won a championship in this kid's lifetime, and that's obviously the goal moving forward.

Most of Alabama's roster in 2009 was in diapers when the tide had last won in 1992. Every kid on Georgia's 2021 roster was born at least 15-20 years after the bulldogs' then-most recent championship. In 2018, Georgia signed 7 five stars that would be key to turning their program around despite the fact that the bulldogs had lost to Vanderbilt at home a matter of months before signing day.

When those kids committed, were they committing to schools that had "nothing to present to a potential recruit"?

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There's a massive difference between where Alabama was a program in 2009 than where Texas is as a program in 2023. Alabama had a national championship winning coach who had just won 12 games the season prior.

The same can be said for Georgia. Georgia was a perrenial contender but just could not get over the hump. Georgia spends more on recruiting than anyone in college football. They were averaging over 10 wins per season under Richt. They then went out and hired a guy who was the defensive coordinator for 4 national titles under Saban. Kirby was also dropping eggreigous bags let's not misunderstand that.

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To say other programs only have money to offer is sour grapes, and not a great look tbh. Every school that is serious about competing and recruiting is going to win some big battles and lose some too. TBH who even knows if this commitment will last until signing day. It's part of the game.

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It's not "other schools". It's very specific programs. When LSU loses a player to Alabama or Georgia, I'm not going to complain about the kid getting a bag. It may be true, but that kid wanted to go play for Nick Saban or Kirby Smart.

When a kid commits and the first comments out of his mouth are "i want to provide for my family and Texas gave me the best opportunty to do that" we all know what he's saying.

LSU is also paying kids, but it's rare that that's the only reason a kid will go to LSU (or Georgia, Alabama, OSU, etc).

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Seriously - I thought there wasn't supposed to be trolling on the recruiting board...

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This isn't trolling. This is presenting an argument using relevant history and facts.

If I was trolling I would make some weird dildo joke or talk about how your head coach is an alcoholic, hitched his wagon to a 5 star name to be the future of his program (even though he never made it out of the second round of the 2A playoffs in Louisiana, despite starting for 4 years and having multiple SEC players on his team each year), has never won 10 games in his 9 seasons as a head coach, and will likely be out of a job in 2 years, so I can just wait on Colin to enter the portal prior to 2025, but I'm going to be the bigger man and not say any of that.

Texas is on the up and up. Just make sure Sark keeps up with his AA meetings.

I do wonder how long Texas boosters will keep paying all that money for no championship.

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Saying Texas, a&m and Miami have absolutely "nothing to present to a potential recruit besides money" is definitely trolling, sour grapes, ignorance, or just all of the above

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All of those schools have a ton to offer recruits. A legit chance at a national championship isn’t one of those things though.