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Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:01 am to Capn_Bevo
quote:Huh? Dude, you don't win every single recruiting battle. If Simmons ends up at LSU, then tip your cap and move on to the next guy. Saying that a team is not committed to "compete for championships" because they lost out on a 17-year-old recruit to another traditional power is a crazy way to go through life.
If Simmons picks LSU, Texas will need to reevaluate everything and decide if they want to compete for championships or not.
Both LSU and Texas have been all in on recruits before only to see them choose a different school. Life goes on and the world is still turning the next day
Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:23 am to Matts El Rancho
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Huh? Dude, you don't win every single recruiting battle. If Simmons ends up at LSU, then tip your cap and move on to the next guy
This one is different. The biggest recruit at the biggest position of need. If Texas loses here it's because their NIL deal wasn't sufficient.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:26 am to Matts El Rancho
quote:You're thinking pre-NIL. In this new world a team can legally say we're breaking the bank to ensure this one player in the class doesn't get away.
Both LSU and Texas have been all in on recruits before only to see them choose a different school
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:08 pm to Capn_Bevo
I know I've got the CFB bug bad when I'm tuning in for an announcement in the middle of the day and neither player even has Bama as a hat on the table 
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:19 pm to Capn_Bevo
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This one is different. The biggest recruit at the biggest position of need. If Texas loses here it's because their NIL deal wasn't sufficient.
Different guy but do you think Harold Perkins chose LSU because of NIL primarily?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:20 pm to Capn_Bevo
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:24 pm to Matts El Rancho
This was a very good purchase for uta! Congrats!
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:28 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Hugh McElroy
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:28 pm to Hugh McElroy
what a shame... kid wont get to play in the playoffs
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:30 pm to Matts El Rancho
I’m sure both sides had plenty money on the table, but ultimately this was an absolute must get for Texas. I’m sure anything LSU could offer they would match or exceed.
I’m not naive enough to pretend LSU wasn’t putting funds on the table
I’m not naive enough to pretend LSU wasn’t putting funds on the table
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:30 pm to Comancheria
quote:Well, in his announcement, he certainly indicated that's why he chose Texas
If he goes to Texas, it's because he was paid millions.
ETA: Also, LSU has proven to be a program that can win national championships and get guys to the NFL over the last 15 years.
Texas unequivocally has not. Texas has had 15 players drafted over the last 5 years. LSU has had 40, and that includes the worst 2 LSU teams of the last 25 years.
With some schools (LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State) money is certainly a factor, but the on field production, championship considerations, and NFL potential that factors in as well.
Other programs (Texas, A&m, USC, Miami) have nothing to present to a potential recruit besides money. They don't win championships. They don't succeed on the field. They don't put guys in the league. They're just different programs that can provide different benefits to a player. It's not a crazy assumption.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:39 pm to PP7 for heisman
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:44 pm to Jimmy Montrose
quote:In college athletics, it's a pretty good indicator.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:47 pm to PP7 for heisman
Cry more pussy
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:48 pm to PP7 for heisman
Completely different staffs, by all accounts this one is actually developing talent and there are a lot of future NFL draft picks on this team now. You can't rain on our parade today...you got a good player in Durham, no reason to be bitter.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:51 pm to BurntOrangeMan
LSU fans, this is about the time not to be assholes to him and his fam. We all win some and lose some. On that note, we're about to get the number one recruit from the state of Louisiana as well lol
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:51 pm to Comancheria
No one is bitter. Texas simply paid more. Simmons said so himself.
Congrats on having the bigger pocketbook for him
Congrats on having the bigger pocketbook for him
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:54 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:Wow at the salt here
PP7 for heisman
quote:I know, right? I can't believe they had a talent like Bijan Robinson go undrafted.
LSU has proven to be a program that can win national championships and get guys to the NFL over the last 15 years.
Texas unequivocally has not
quote:Yea, because every single season in the last 25 years for Texas has been their 25 best seasons ever...
Texas has had 15 players drafted over the last 5 years. LSU has had 40, and that includes the worst 2 LSU teams of the last 25 years.
Also, you say this as if Kelly and Sarkisian have been at their respective schools for the past 15 years. They haven't. So saying things like "Texas sucked under Charlie Strong, so you shouldn't commit there" or "LSU lost 7 games only 2 years ago, so they're a dumpster" is just silly. Past results are not a crystal ball to what's going to happen in the future, and blaming current coaches for their respective program's prior issues before their tenure there doesn't make a great deal of sense.
quote:Except Texas has won a championship in this kid's lifetime, and that's obviously the goal moving forward.
Other programs (Texas, A&m, USC, Miami) have nothing to present to a potential recruit besides money. They don't win championships. They don't succeed on the field. They don't put guys in the league. They're just different programs that can provide different benefits to a player. It's not a crazy assumption.
Most of Alabama's roster in 2009 was in diapers when the tide had last won in 1992. Every kid on Georgia's 2021 roster was born at least 15-20 years after the bulldogs' then-most recent championship. In 2018, Georgia signed 7 five stars that would be key to turning their program around despite the fact that the bulldogs had lost to Vanderbilt at home a matter of months before signing day.
When those kids committed, were they committing to schools that had "nothing to present to a potential recruit"?
To say other programs only have money to offer is sour grapes, and not a great look tbh. Every school that is serious about competing and recruiting is going to win some big battles and lose some too. TBH who even knows if this commitment will last until signing day. It's part of the game.
Seriously - I thought there wasn't supposed to be trolling on the recruiting board...
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:55 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Other programs (Texas, A&m, USC, Miami) have nothing to present to a potential recruit besides money.
Disagree
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They don't win championships. They don't succeed on the field.
Guys get sold on being part of the culture to change that, and I don't think its as big of a selling point as people think usually. You don't want to be heading into a situation like the last year of Harsin who was a dead man walking at Auburn, but most recruits seem to not mind tougher situations.
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They don't put guys in the league.
A lot of these guys are very confident in themselves and think they will get there either way if they work hard, and the more talented guys are usually right.
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They're just different programs that can provide different benefits to a player. It's not a crazy assumption.
There are a lot of reasons I would personally go to USC, Miami, or Texas other than money. That said, getting paid life changing money up front in case you blow your knee up or something should be reason enough for anybody to accept someone's decision. Its not like your guaranteed a championship at UGA, Bama, or Ohio St even if it is way more likely.
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