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re: Your team's weakest position group?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:26 pm to KaiserSoze99
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For Aggy, I'm going with LBs, and possibly the OL. Every other position seems to be fine, but I would like to have more experience at the QB position.
Listened to a podcast by an A&M writer and he was livid that A&M would be as good or better on the Oline due to Talent. But yall lost like the entire line correct?
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:26 pm to MacMan10
Probably WR, our LB group is sort of thin but has talent.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:29 pm to VFL1800FPD
Yeah, basically our whole defense.
Not sure a Heupel-tempo offense is going to help much either
Not sure a Heupel-tempo offense is going to help much either
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:29 pm to diddlydawg7
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Probably. Brini came in as a 3-star and stuck with it and got a little bit better each year. He made some good plays in the Cincy game.
Not sure it really matters who starts at STAR. Brini can play all 3 safety positions so he will get a ton of playing time rotating in for the other 3 guys.
I see chistopher smith listed on the depth chart. Who the hell is that? Did he play last year. Thought tyreke would play the star and brini would slide over to the other safety position?
Also FWIW PFF has tyreke as the best slot cover safety last year. Seems good news for the star postion.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:29 pm to tWildcat
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Probably WR
Especially after you have your best WR play QB for like the 7th straight year
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:30 pm to MacMan10
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Position group? Curious to hear from a Wildcat fan
Its tough to tell. Kentucky just doesn't have the depth like the big players.
Easy answer is QB - its been that way for a while. But, again, part of that is ... we think and hope ... the Eddie Gran effect. Great dude, never should have been an OC. Hell of an RB coach.
Don't know if the new guy is any better. We'll see. At least by Lexington standards - which ain't Tuscaloosa standards - Kentucky has done a great job of developing OL - and a good job at DL, LB, DB, and RB. QB and WR never seems to get any better. That magical mystery position called TE just never got used - even though they had two or three pretty good ones move through there.
Most worried about QB. OL will be fine, they'll run for 100 yards every weekend. Defense will hang in there like they always do with the bend and don't break concept. Will they be dynamic enough on offense to score ? Don't know.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:31 pm to UTprideofTX
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Yeah, basically our whole defense.
Not sure a Heupel-tempo offense is going to help much either
Not trying to be an arse but any hope for Tennessee this year? So hard to keep up with you guys when you have like 34394723 transfers in and out. Who is your favorite transfer in?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:32 pm to MacMan10
Q & OL are our most unknown position groups. I wouldn't really call any of them weak per say.
King doesn't have the high floor of a 3.5-year returning starter would, but he also has a higher ceiling than Mond and a schedule that eases him in. Plus with a strong WR, TE, and RB group he won't be asked to do too much.
The OL is similar to the QB position. We had a group of upperclassmen who worked well together. But they weren't overly gifted except for All American Green who is back. Again, probably a lower floor due to so many new players coming together, but a much higher ceiling.
I think both groups will be significantly better towards the end of the year vs the start.
If I have to pick the weakest, then I will go with CB. The run defense outshined the pass last year. Not that I think Jones, Johnson, Young, or Harmon are bad. All are highly recruited with stars out the arse. I just need to see it to believe it.
King doesn't have the high floor of a 3.5-year returning starter would, but he also has a higher ceiling than Mond and a schedule that eases him in. Plus with a strong WR, TE, and RB group he won't be asked to do too much.
The OL is similar to the QB position. We had a group of upperclassmen who worked well together. But they weren't overly gifted except for All American Green who is back. Again, probably a lower floor due to so many new players coming together, but a much higher ceiling.
I think both groups will be significantly better towards the end of the year vs the start.
If I have to pick the weakest, then I will go with CB. The run defense outshined the pass last year. Not that I think Jones, Johnson, Young, or Harmon are bad. All are highly recruited with stars out the arse. I just need to see it to believe it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:33 pm to MacMan10
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But yall lost like the entire line correct?
I think we only have 1 returning starter.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:33 pm to ScoggDog
ScoggDog, I thought y'all were suppose to have like a top 3 SEC offensive line last year...what happened?
Also thought I read something months ago that like everyone is returning on that line? Is that right?
Also thought I read something months ago that like everyone is returning on that line? Is that right?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:34 pm to TutHillTiger
Gumps,
I haven’t seen you play yet but you are young at a lot of key positions. I saw Saban win a national championship with a squad like this when you beat Georgia in Natty so I never underestimate you, I just look for kinks in the armor. This team will not go undefeated but so what.
Your secondary is a probable concern, crazy with Saban being originally a secondary coach but it was same at LSU.
You typically have huge dline but those are the issue with those is with HUNH which almost half the teams run you can wear those guys out, and they often will get injured trying to run all over the place.
You Oline is same issue if your opponent has NFL quality edge rushers. Saban getting that edge rusher Tim out of North Louisiana was deadly to us. You eliminated a huge threat and added a huge asset. If we get him you lose one Natty. (You had had on making sure we didn’t get Klavon Thibodeaux too. You never had real shot but you want him out of SEC). 3 level chess.
I would guess secondary on defense, and WR on offense.
Ole Miss is likely a bad match up for you guys again too, just like it is for us
I haven’t seen you play yet but you are young at a lot of key positions. I saw Saban win a national championship with a squad like this when you beat Georgia in Natty so I never underestimate you, I just look for kinks in the armor. This team will not go undefeated but so what.
Your secondary is a probable concern, crazy with Saban being originally a secondary coach but it was same at LSU.
You typically have huge dline but those are the issue with those is with HUNH which almost half the teams run you can wear those guys out, and they often will get injured trying to run all over the place.
You Oline is same issue if your opponent has NFL quality edge rushers. Saban getting that edge rusher Tim out of North Louisiana was deadly to us. You eliminated a huge threat and added a huge asset. If we get him you lose one Natty. (You had had on making sure we didn’t get Klavon Thibodeaux too. You never had real shot but you want him out of SEC). 3 level chess.
I would guess secondary on defense, and WR on offense.
Ole Miss is likely a bad match up for you guys again too, just like it is for us
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:36 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I think we only have 1 returning starter.
But none of the guys that left got drafted correct? Do you know the new projected starting 5?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:36 pm to MacMan10
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I see chistopher smith listed on the depth chart. Who the hell is that? Did he play last year. Thought tyreke would play the star and brini would slide over to the other safety position?
Smith is a true senior from the Atlanta area who started every game at free safety after LeCounte was injured in his motorbike accident. He’s a solid enough player who added a bit of mass in the off-season.
I’m not worried about our starters at safety (Cine and Smith) but our depth there is a concern, especially if Cine continues his habit of trying to decapitate receivers running across the middle of the field.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:40 pm to MacMan10
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ScoggDog, I thought y'all were suppose to have like a top 3 SEC offensive line last year...what happened?
They did. But they were probably the least dynamic team I've ever watched.
I'm no ball coach. Never played a down of high school ball. I am, however, a student of game theory. Pretty decent poker player and such. I watch patterns.
Every team that plays Kentucky walks their DBs up. They always play single safety. The DBs play off the inside shoulder of the WR. The DLs hardly ever go off a free release. The LBs always react to that single RB in an Ace set. When Kentucky went to a stack backfield, the SS just walks up to the line. Sometimes teams would over-shift when Gran would go trips to one side - because they're following their assignments. That was a sure run to the other side.
Kentucky returns three linemen - and one key kid that was basically the sixth Rolling Stone. But they lost their center. That's a problem. That kid was something else.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:40 pm to MacMan10
WR. O line will need time to gel. S good but not great. DLine is expected to be our best and deepest in a long time.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:41 pm to LRB1967
OL
Thanks bleach headed UCF coach.
Thanks bleach headed UCF coach.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:43 pm to TutHillTiger
For Alabama on defense, I guess you could say secondary but we return everyone there except Surtain. Big loss but I guess you could pick on that particular cb if he sucks. JAD or Koolaid (the new freshman) will probably start there. Defense is stout tho.
Offense, I'm not as worried about the QB spot as I am having that go to receiver. Also nervous about being able to run the ball without having the threat of elite WR speed/talent over the top. Also replacing a first round center and deonte brown (guard) will not help that run game.
Offense, I'm not as worried about the QB spot as I am having that go to receiver. Also nervous about being able to run the ball without having the threat of elite WR speed/talent over the top. Also replacing a first round center and deonte brown (guard) will not help that run game.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:43 pm to MacMan10
Shanahan at C, Deculus and Cam Wire at RT/LT with Garrett Dellinger and Marcus Dumervil getting a lot of praise, Ed Ingram and Chasen Hines at guard & a few good backups but not proven,
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