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re: Your schools all time starting 5 in basketball

Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Oh well hell, if Paul Sullivan has ruled on the subject, then I guess it is settled. Lmao.

That dude would be lucky to be in Division 1 today and just because he was on the same court as Wilt and Kareem, doesn’t mean he was in the same universe as either as a player.


Stats by year against Wilt and Kareem:

1968-69 (as a Rookie)
Against Wilt Chamberlain

11/1 vs Lakers - 16 points, 15 rebounds, 7 assists
11/5 vs Lakers - 9 points, 13 rebounds
11/24 vs Lakers - 3 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists
12/07 vs Lakers - 10 points, 16 rebounds, 6 assists
12/28 vs Lakers - 10 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists
1/28 vs Lakers - 10 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists
3/18 vs Lakers - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists
Average - 10.4 points, 11 rebounds, 3.6 assists

1968-69 Against Kareem
10/16 vs Milwaukee - 5 points, 16 rebounds, 2 assists
11/21 vs Milwaukee - 4 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists
12/19 vs Milwaukee - 2 points, 2 rebounds, 3 assists
12/29 vs Milwaukee - 4 points, 3 rebounds, 5 assists
2/4 vs Milwaukee - 14 points, 9 rebounds
3/5 vs Milwaukee - 11 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists
Average - 6.7 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.2 assists

Second season in the league - 1969-70
Against Wilt

10/26 vs Lakers- 14 points, 14 rebounds, 1 assist
11/30 vs Lakers - 3 points, 10 rebounds
1/6 - vs Lakers - 13 points, 23 rebounds, 3 assists
1/10 vs Lakers - 16 points, 21 rebounds, 10 assists
2/14 vs Lakers - 13 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists
2/27 vs Lakers - 10 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists
Average - 11.5 points, 15.8 rebounds, 3.8 assists

1969-70 Against Kareem
11/14 vs Milwaukee - 14 points, 15 rebounds, 2 assist
11/22 vs Milwaukee - 10 points, 10 rebounds, 1 assist
1/17 vs Milwaukee - 21 points, 17 rebounds, 7 assists
1/30 vs Milwaukee - 11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists
3/15 vs Milwaukee - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists
3/22 vs Milwaukee - 13 points, 20 rebounds, 4 assists
Average - 12.3 points, 13.5 rebounds, 3 assists

So...he may not have "been in the same universe as a player", but I never said he was. What I said was, these were the players he was playing against to put up those numbers. He held his own against HOF centers.

BTW...That's just Boerwinkle's first 2 seasons. I can go on...or you can just look at the stats on basketballreference.com.

Haislip was a very athletic player...but in his 4 season NBA career he had 9 games total where he scored in double digits (never more than 12 points in a game), he never had a game with more than 6 rebounds, and he never had a game with more than 2 assists.


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I am starting to understand why folks hate on Vol fans so much on this site.



Noted...
Posted by SlicedBread
Member since Feb 2022
961 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:33 pm to
I remember watching Vernon Maxewell charge 15 rows deep into the stands to whoop a fan's arse in the mid 90's. HOF sixth man. Loved watching him streak out with the Rockets.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Anthony Peeler
Jon Sundvold
Derrick Chievous
Steve Stipanovich
John Brown


Wasn't it Anthony Peeler who transferred from Arkansas? I remember Sunvold and Peeler.
Posted by ropesmoknrednek
Member since Mar 2005
212 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:02 pm to
As long as Dale Brown isn’t the coach. Just realize that two of those did play together for a minute while he was coaching.
Posted by PSS101
Member since Jun 2024
418 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:16 pm to
Totally agree. LSUs 5 are probably the best. Some hall of famers. Can go toe to toe with anybody
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14557 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:18 pm to
PG Donald Sloan
SG Khris Middleton
SF Alex Caruso
PF Rob Williams
C DeAndre Jordan
Posted by TDCat
Louisville
Member since Oct 2013
1009 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:23 pm to
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As long as Dale Brown isn’t the coach. Just realize that two of those did play together for a minute while he was coaching.

I might be the only UK fan that liked Dale Brown.

When Jackson//Shaq/Roberts came to Lexington it was the loudest I’ve ever heard Rupp. Great game and the Cats somehow pulled the upset.
Posted by geaux2019
Member since Dec 2023
295 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:53 pm to
Our all time lineup is beating anybody. Our current one, not so much.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3302 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Not sure about starting 5, but best 5 would be : Latrell Sprewell Robert Horry Antonio McDyess Mo Williams Gerald Wallace Honorable Mention: Collin Sexton Brandon Miller Erwin Dudley Kennedy Winston


Two time SEC player of the year Leon Douglas should be the start of any Alabama list, there’s a lot of years that 76 Bama squad could have won the tournament and almost took down Kent Benson’s Indiana squad.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7533 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
Yeah LSUs lineup takes the cake. Maravich probably scores 40 even with Shaq and Chris Jackson
Posted by Haricougar
Member since Dec 2020
225 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:33 pm to
Point Acie Law
2 Don Marbury
3 Kris Middleton or Vernon Smith
4 Joseph Jones
5 Deondre Jordan or Rudy Woods
Posted by rojak
CoMo
Member since Feb 2023
252 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:43 pm to
Peeler only played at Mizzou.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14812 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:36 pm to
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State (very difficult to do just 5 so I am going to do a full roster of 10 - 2 deep).

Bailey Howell
Eric Dampier
Jeff Malone
Red Stroud
Daryl Wilson
Dontae Jones
Lawrence Roberts
Rickey Brown
Jarvis Varnado
Jim Ashmore



Dontae Jones once retrieved a quarter from the top of the backboard, after putting it there.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9217 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:45 pm to
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None of the Auburn lists have anyone from our Final 4 run on them or the late 90's Chris Porter team.


That's because outside of Harper at PG, nobody on the final four team really belongs in the discussion for best player at position, particularly when you consider offense and defense. Fast Eddie had much better size and overall skills compared to Harper, and if course the lengthy NBA career, so most are going to give him the nod. Harper is my no doubt #2 and right there with him though.

I was a Cliff Dweller and watched the Porter years, as much fun as it was experiencing it he doesn't really belong in the discussion with Charles, Marquis, and Chuck Person at forward simply because he had no real jump shot offensively, he was mostly put backs and slams. I'd even probably put Chris Morris over him.
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
3082 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:51 pm to
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Mar. 8, 1969 - LSU's Maravich scored Stegeman Record 58 points


Wonder how many points he would have with a three point line. Hell, him and Chris Jackson could score most of the points by themselves. I wasn't alive during pistols days at LSU. But tried to watch every game Jackson and Shaq played that year. The game against Loyola was a blast to watch. Can't believe that couldn't get a natty that year.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7303 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:12 pm to
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But here is who I'm having to leave out. Anthony Davis Karl Anthony Towns John Wall Devin Booker Jamal Mashburn De'Aaron Fox DeMarcus Cousins Antoine Walker Julius Walker Tyrese Maxey Rex Chapman Tahshawn Prince Sam Bowie Malik Monk Bam Adebayo Shai Gilchris Alexander Tyler Herro Ron Mercer Derek Anderson Eric Bledsoe Jeff Sheppard Mark Pope Rick Robey PJ Washington Ckiff Hagan Louie Dampier Tyler Ulis Patrick Patterson Ralph Beard Willie Cauley Stein Walter McCarty Brandon Knight Jodie Meeks Michael Kidd Gilchrist Scott Padgett Travis Ford Chuck Hayes Nazr Mohammad Mike Pratt James Lee OscarTshiebwe Mike Phillips And more....


Thread over…. UK is really in another league.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
22622 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:17 pm to
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Mahmoud was always a fun watch for me.


He was born Chris Jackson... I'm gonna call him Chris Jackson.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Peeler only played at Mizzou.


That's right. I always get him confused with Byron Irvin.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7303 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:41 pm to
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I know I'm biased but it's hard for me to see how UF wouldn't have a legit shot vs any roster. Horford and Noah were about as complete a college frontcourt as I can think of. They proved it in the NBA too. Only weaknesses between them is basically Noah's lack of a jump shot which isn't as important in college. Elite defenders, passers, and IQ players etc. Old man Horford is still one of the best defenders vs elite bigs in the NBA like Embiid and Giannis. Bradley Beal is one of the best scorers of his generation. Our "weakest" position is like Mike Miller at the 3 who was fringe all star and one of the best shooters of his era. Unless you don't allow White Chocolate then PG would be a pretty big drop off.



UF fans here must be pretty young. How could anyone leave Vernon Maxwell off the list? Just because the school forgot about him, we should not. He took money from an agent and the school threw out all his records and act like he never existed. They took away his stats. Maxwell was the highest scoring Gators ever. He would have also been the 2nd highest scorer in the SEC behind Pistol Pete at the time. People look at Gator football starting in the 80s, well Maxwell took the Gators to our first NCAA tourney and 1st sweet 16.

Ronnie Williams holds the school record for points, field goals, minutes and free throws made.

Neal Walk became UFs first All American in 1968. His jersey was the first and I think only to this day retired by the Gators. He remains the highest Gator to ever be drafted at #2 in the NBA draft.

Dwayne Schintzus would be ranked above Horford and Noah. He’s still the only player in the SEC to score over 1,000 points, 800 rebounds, 250 assists and 250 blocks.

Eugene McDowell played with lessor players but was one of our best. To this day he has the most double doubles in Gators history.

Udonis Haslem was our first All American since Walk. First player to play on 4 tourney teams and be named to 4 All SEC teams.

Corey Brewer. along with Mad Max were some of the best wing defenders in college and the NBA. Chandler Parsons, David Lee, Matt Bonner all very underrated.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12915 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:24 pm to
Pistol Pete Maravich

Shaquille O'Neal

Bob Petit

Durand "Rudy" Macklin

Chris Jackson (Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf)
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