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re: Yahoo: NCAA waiting for feds to finish

Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:03 pm to
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I have plenty. I’ve discussed many of these objective misstatements by you in threads last week.


so you were sitting in the room when LSU was discussing how this situation is playing out?.......or are you just going off of all of the "sauces" that your LSU brethren have been spewing. One out of every five over on your side knows somebody who knows what is going on.


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There are many many objective facts that can and have been discussed


I get the feeling you don't know what "facts" means. There have been very few facts that have come out about the situation LSU is in. However, there has been a lot of speculation.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:07 pm to
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Seems to me you only know what in the yahoo “report”.



as far as the LSU situation is concerned, that is all anybody knows right now. It is not known what will be allowed in the trial. It is not known when the NCAA will send the dreaded letter to LSU. It is not known how long the NCAA will take investigating it. Everything is up in the air regarding LSU.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:07 pm to
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my opinion is......this isn't over for LSU.


No shite.

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The NCAA hasn't even gotten involved yet.


THEY INVITED THE NCAA TO THE INTERVIEW.

Just walk away man.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64510 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
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so you were sitting in the room when LSU was discussing how this situation is playing out?

not what i said
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or are you just going off of all of the "sauces" that your LSU brethren have been spewing

No I'm going on the objective facts we do have, judicial process, laws that govern the case and dissemination of evidence, the protocol for the federal prosecutors, the protocol for the NCAA, etc. There are pkenty of ojective facts concerning this case. Then smart people (not you) take these objective facts and formulate an educated speculative opinion regarding how things may turn and why. You, however, put the cart before the horse and give your opinion without it being supported by any facts or reason. You want your opinion to mean something but it means nothing if you have nothing on which to base that opinion.
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I get the feeling you don't know what "facts" means.
I'm very aware
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There have been very few facts that have come out about the situation
Also not true. You being ignorant of these facs doesn't mean they don't exist.
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However, there has been a lot of speculation.

There has been a lot of speculation, about the only accurate thing you have said this entire thread, so congratulations buddy
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:09 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
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I have plenty. I’ve discussed many of these objective misstatements by you in threads last week.
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so you were sitting in the room when LSU was discussing how this situation is playing out?.......or are you just going off of all of the "sauces" that your LSU brethren have been spewing. One out of every five over on your side knows somebody who knows what is going on.



You just changed the topic again! Lsuball19is talking about the trial. You bring up LSU being in a room discussing the situation. Do you know LSU has nothing to do with the trial next week other than wade being subpoenaed?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:10 pm to
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THEY INVITED THE NCAA TO THE INTERVIEW.



so the NCAA spent a few hours listening to Wade so that constitutes an "investigation"?

Do you think the NCAA will look into this any further if nothing else comes out hurtful towards LSU?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64510 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:10 pm to
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as far as the LSU situation is concerned, that is all anybody knows right now.

god damn I wish I lived in the same alternate reality you do. And this right here is why you don't need to discuss this situation. There is a shite load more information out there surrounding this case than the fricking yahoo article. No wonder you sound like a half-wit when trying to discuss the topic. This whole ordeal has been going on for nearly two YEARS. A lot more has transpired than a Pat Forde yahoo article. People have already been sentenced to prison time and you literally just found that out today, but somehow you don't seem to be phased by that in the least
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:14 pm to
I thought at minimum he would do a couple google searches.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Then smart people (not you) take these objective facts and formulate an educated speculative opinion regarding how things may turn and why.


so with your superior intellect you know what will be submitted at trial and how this evidence will affect the trial?


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There have been very few facts that have come out about the situation


Also not true. You being ignorant of these facs doesn't mean they don't exist.



O.k., then give just five facts that have come out about the situation at LSU.........cold hard facts, not speculation.


Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:19 pm to
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so the NCAA spent a few hours listening to Wade so that constitutes an "investigation"?


Motherfricker you are dense.

Earlier I was trying to be helpful to you but you've made it clear that is pointless.

You said "The NCAA hasn't even gotten involved yet".

Which is completely false because it is well known that LSU rolled out the red carpet for the NCAA investigators and demanded that they be present when Will Wade gave his side of the story.

I said nothing about any investigation being concluded.

It is likely far from concluded but as you should know as an Auburn fan the NCAA never officially comments on any ongoing investigations.

Louisville got their notice of inquiry last week. Allegedly Arizona and Kansas are also served notice. Surely more schools will get notice in the weeks, months, years to come stemming from this FBI investigation.

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Six months after a former Adidas executive and others were found guilty in a pay-for-play scheme that included a Louisville basketball recruit, the Cardinals program acknowledged Wednesday it has received a “verbal notice of inquiry” from the NCAA that it will begin conducting its own investigation.

“We received verbal notice of inquiry from the NCAA on March 8,” school spokesman John Karman told The Athletic’s Jeff Greer. Greer was the first to report on the investigation that is said to also include Arizona and Kansas.


LINK
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64510 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:23 pm to
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so with your superior intellect you know what will be submitted at trial and how this evidence will affect the trial?

I said months ago what objections would be made and how the prosecution would likely proceed. I stated that i thought there was a good chance Wade would never end up testifying and that the feds would file a Motion trying to block the same. I supported that opinion with my knowledge of the law, procedure, and the facts of the case. And you know what, I ended up being right. That's exactly what they've done. Imagine that.

No, I cannot tell you with 100% certainty what will or will not happen but I can provide you with what I think will happen and support that opinion with facts. You state your opinion without supporting that opinion with facts that lead you to that conclusion. That's your problem, you are ignorant.
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then give just five facts that have come out about the situation at LSU

google "NCAA college basketball trial" and you will find hundreds of articles that will give you all the facts in the world. Go on the DOJ website and find information on the last trial and the current trial, you can pull up the indictments that were filed by prosecutors, the final judgment in the last trial, etc. You can find all the "findings" of the court, Motions filed, etc. Go do some legal research on the applicable legal statutes and federal rules of criminal procedure. Go do some research on the applicable NCAA bylaws. Go do some research on the terms of Will Wade's contract. There are plenty of factual things out there that have and can be discussed pertaining to this situation. It's not my job to spoon feed information to you.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:23 pm to
Someone should go ahead and photoshop “will wade reinstated” on the “Dewey defeats truman” newspaper.

It will be hilariously useful soon.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:24 pm to
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You said "The NCAA hasn't even gotten involved yet".

Which is completely false because it is well known that LSU rolled out the red carpet for the NCAA investigators and demanded that they be present when Will Wade gave his side of the story.


I did say the NCAA sat in on the meeting. I said that in the very post you responded about.

The "NCAA getting involved" part of my statement is that the NCAA has not started their investigation into possible wrongdoing at LSU yet. I also asked if you thought the NCAA would dig further, other than sitting in on the meeting, if nothing else hurtful comes out towards LSU?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:26 pm to
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google "NCAA college basketball trial" and you will find hundreds of articles that will give you all the facts in the world.


This doesn't answer my question. I specifically asked you to give me five facts about the current situation at LSU. You can't. Like I said.....regarding LSU, everything is speculation at this point. There may be some facts that come out in the trial regarding LSU specifically. Only time will tell.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64510 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:28 pm to
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I specifically asked you to give me five facts about the current situation at LSU

and I specifically told you where you can find the information you're seeking. Stop being lazy. Everything in life isn't spoon-fed to you. Learning doesn't take place in a matter of minutes.
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Like I said.....regarding LSU, everything is speculation at this point.

Like I said, you're wrong, and dumb, and don't care that you're dumb
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:33 pm to
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and I specifically told you where you can find the information you're seeking


which will tell me nothing in regards to LSU specifically......just like it won't tell me what is in Duke, , Arizona, Louisville's, etc. future regarding the NCAA. These schools are not on trial. One person is.

Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:35 pm to
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These schools are not on trial. One person is.


Who is in trial?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64510 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:35 pm to
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which will tell me nothing in regards to LSU specifically

sure it will. I never said you're going to find an article with a factual conclusion to the situation. You said there are no facts other than what is in the yahoo article. That isn't even close to being accurate. Stop being a typical lazy millennial loser and take a little time to read and learn.
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These schools are not on trial. One person is.
actually multiple people are on trial. This is another "fact" you would learn if you cared to learn anything.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:36 pm to
Here is the release after the conclusion of the October case.

DOJ
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71336 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:36 pm to
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MrAUTigers


You should chill on lsufball19. He was pretty laid back during this whole thing and gave plenty of facts throughout.

Even if something may happen, it wont be for awhile, so you are getting upset for no reason.
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