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re: Will the SEC championship come down to Bama and LSU again?
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:06 pm to StrickAggie06
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:06 pm to StrickAggie06
The whole "you only won because we "gifted" you X number of turnovers" argument is fricking retarded. Turnover margin is the most important stat in EVERY game and you trying to act like LSU had nothing to do with 4 of the 5 turnovers is even more retarded.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:08 pm to cas4t
One of three things will likely happen: Miles will collect what little sanity he has and trash the no-huddle during fall practice, he will use a "no-huddle" that involves quickly running sweeps and dives OR the biggest fail of the 2013 NCAA season will go down in Baton Rouge Louisiana.
LSU doesnt have the personel to run a no-huddle in the manner in which a no huddle is effective. Running the ball from under center over and over out of a no huddle strategy defeats the purpose. If LSU actually tries to run an effective no-huddle, it's going to look like that movie "The Little Giants".
And LSU will never run 90 plays a game. Even A&M only ran 80.
LSU doesnt have the personel to run a no-huddle in the manner in which a no huddle is effective. Running the ball from under center over and over out of a no huddle strategy defeats the purpose. If LSU actually tries to run an effective no-huddle, it's going to look like that movie "The Little Giants".
And LSU will never run 90 plays a game. Even A&M only ran 80.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:09 pm to molsusports
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people have been saying that about Miles coached teams for 8 years now. every year in the offseason the good teams we beat complain they lost the turnover battle because of bad luck
I'm not really blaming it on luck though. Our players made mistakes, whether it was luck, inexperience, or they just didn't show up that day. As I already listed, one was a drop (the pass was uncontested), one was a true FR running the wrong route stem, one was Johnny making a terrible decision out of frustration (though I might concede the secondary forced it), one was desperate end of the game shenanigans, and one was a straight up forced fumble (although very rare for the player in question).
I'm not saying LSU's defense didn't play well. Once they switched to a 3 man front in the 2nd quarter, we had a lot more trouble moving the ball, and Kingsbury refused to run the ball for some reason. At the end of the day however, the 3 to 4 turnovers from our players making stupid mistakes and the missed kicks were the difference. If we take care of our own business in that game, we win, PERIOD. So again, LSU played a good game and deserved to win, but they absolutely DID NOT dominate us.
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The whole "you only won because we "gifted" you X number of turnovers" argument is fricking retarded. Turnover margin is the most important stat in EVERY game and you trying to act like LSU had nothing to do with 4 of the 5 turnovers is even more retarded.
I'm sorry you don't like facts.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:11 pm to StrickAggie06
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If we take care of our own business in that game, we win, PERIOD. So again, LSU played a good game and deserved to win, but they absolutely DID NOT dominate us.
LSU missed 2 FG's in the game too so if you get to make yours we get to automatically make ours too. So actually we would still win. DWI
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:11 pm to wadewilson
I think Bama goes undefeated in te SEC and wins the West. Both ATM and LSU have 2 SEC losses.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
I have a very eerie feeling we'll be seeing our democratic QB for some plays this year. I could be wrong..
and no huddle from under center and/or shotgun is no different than a 2 minute offense. It can be very effective. And we certainly have the personnel for it.
We'll still run the ball. But we'll be passing quite a bit this year too.
and no huddle from under center and/or shotgun is no different than a 2 minute offense. It can be very effective. And we certainly have the personnel for it.
We'll still run the ball. But we'll be passing quite a bit this year too.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:12 pm to StrickAggie06
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Once they switched to a 3 man front in the 2nd quarter, we had a lot more trouble moving the ball,
That's the first comment that you've made that indicates strongly you watched the game
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If we take care of our own business in that game, we win, PERIOD.
nonsense, only if you assume that A&M plays better while LSU does not. there were plenty of mistakes on LSU's side of the ball as well
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:12 pm to StrickAggie06
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I'm sorry you don't like facts.
Your "facts" sound like a lot of guess work and speculation about what MAY have happened without the turnovers to me.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
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LSU doesnt have the personel to run a no-huddle in the manner in which a no huddle is effective
Coach Cameron....is that you?
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:14 pm to StrickAggie06
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I'm sorry you don't like facts.
The irony in this statement is laughable. I actually can't believe I'm responding to it.
Anyways
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:15 pm to molsusports
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If we take care of our own business in that game, we win, PERIOD.
And has wade has stated, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
Aggies, get a grip on this guy. He's too hung up on that game last year.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:16 pm to RB10
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LSU missed 2 FG's in the game too so if you get to make yours we get to automatically make ours too. So actually we would still win. DWI
Actually, LSU only had 1 missed FG in that game, but they did receive 14 points off of unforced turnovers. But let's not let facts cloud the issue or anything.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:17 pm to cas4t
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and no huddle from under center and/or shotgun is no different than a 2 minute offense. It can be very effective. And we certainly have the personnel for it.
The point of a no huddle is to create mismatches and tire out the defense. You can't do that with I-sets and dives plays, it doesnt force the defense to play the field (and thus tire them out) and doesnt create mismatches.
The no-huddle works because front-seven players get tired and you end up with linebackers on TEs and safeties on receivers. That doesnt happen with a power "no-huddle". Look at how easily Manziel was able to break the pocket or hit open receivers last year because defenders were drag assing and out of position.
I can promise you that every DC in the country would love a team to run a predominantly under center run-oritented no huddle offense because it is easy to scheme.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:19 pm to Roger Klarvin
Not sure if serious. The '08 OU offense set records running a no huddle that consisted of a pro style offense with spread concepts. Lots of power running, etc.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:21 pm to StrickAggie06
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Actually, LSU only had 1 missed FG in that game, but they did receive 14 points off of unforced turnovers
Well, Aggies, THANKS FOR THE WIN! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm kidding. You suck.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The point of a no huddle is to create mismatches and tire out the defense. You can't do that with I-sets and dives plays, it doesnt force the defense to play the field (and thus tire them out) and doesnt create mismatches. The no-huddle works because front-seven players get tired and you end up with linebackers on TEs and safeties on receivers. That doesnt happen with a power "no-huddle". Look at how easily Manziel was able to break the pocket or hit open receivers last year because defenders were drag assing and out of position. I can promise you that every DC in the country would love a team to run a predominantly under center run-oritented no huddle offense because it is easy to scheme.
I don't think you know Cameron's style of offense very well. But I don't expect you to. LSU will not be in I-formation all year. They also won't be in the no huddle for entire games at a time.
We went out and got a new OC for a reason, man
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:22 pm to StrickAggie06
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Actually, LSU only had 1 missed FG in that game, but they did receive 14 points off of unforced turnovers. But let's not let facts cloud the issue or anything.
OK lets go back to grade school really quick.
A fact is something that is PROVEN to be true, while an opinion is something one BELIEVES to be true.
Some examples:
LSU forced 5 turnovers in the game against aTm. This is a fact.
LSU won the game. This is also a fact.
StrickAggie06 says IF Aggie hadn't lost 5 turnovers they would have won the game. This is an opinion.
StrickAggie06 says 4 of the turnover were "gifted". This is also an opinion.
Do you get it?
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:22 pm to RB10
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Your "facts" sound like a lot of guess work and speculation about what MAY have happened without the turnovers to me.
Maybe you should go back and watch the game again. The Mike Evans drop is clear as day and Sumlin said straight up that one of the other INTs was due to Thomas Johnson running the wrong route stem, which is also obvious if you go back and watch. The end of the game lateral bullshite is exactly that. So if you count the bad decision by Johnny as forced, you forced 2 out of 5 turnovers, but got 14 points out of the 3 that weren't. FACTS.
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Aggies, get a grip on this guy. He's too hung up on that game last year.
I'm not hung up over it at all. As I said before, we played, and LSU deserved to win based on how we played. At the same time, it's absolutely retarded for LSU fans to claim that they "dominated" us when that is no where close to the truth, but you want to pretend you destroyed us and somehow had a better season because you upset us and finished 2nd in the west when everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that A&M had the more successful year.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:23 pm to gatordmb89
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Not sure if serious. The '08 OU offense set records running a no huddle that consisted of a pro style offense with spread concepts. Lots of power running, etc.
Did not think about this. Regardless, LSU will not be running the I all year. You have to be able to throw the ball to win. Bama proved that this year with their change in philosophy.
eta Tebow made plenty of great passes in his career.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:25 pm to StrickAggie06
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StrickAggie06
Holy fricking frick.
LSU DID NOT DOMINATE.
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