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re: Will Moorhead be on the hot seat? Brings in Grad Transfer QB.... can he keep Thompson
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:09 am to MullenBoys
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:09 am to MullenBoys
Success as what? This is his second head coaching job. Cherry pick success as you please but every current SEC head coach has had success at some point/level in their career.
Moorhead inherited a historic talent pool by MS St standards but it didn’t work out because he didn’t have his preferred talent at WR?
Sounds like a stubborn coach if true
Moorhead inherited a historic talent pool by MS St standards but it didn’t work out because he didn’t have his preferred talent at WR?
Sounds like a stubborn coach if true
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:19 am to CrabInMyShoeMouth
The truth is, no, we did not have good receivers this last year and Fitzgerald is not a true QB.
What Mullen was able to do was create mismatches and get guys in space. Moorhead is coming in with his own ideas and has to recruit for his offense. He was stubborn not using Kylin Hill more and that is something every MSU fan agrees on.
However, truth be, if you can’t pass the ball, defenses line up to stop the run so I give him an out there. Again, he has 2 years to show us what he does.
Also, he was the OC at Penn State before he came here (something you left out) and Penn State broke school records his second year on offense.
What Mullen was able to do was create mismatches and get guys in space. Moorhead is coming in with his own ideas and has to recruit for his offense. He was stubborn not using Kylin Hill more and that is something every MSU fan agrees on.
However, truth be, if you can’t pass the ball, defenses line up to stop the run so I give him an out there. Again, he has 2 years to show us what he does.
Also, he was the OC at Penn State before he came here (something you left out) and Penn State broke school records his second year on offense.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:32 am to TTsTowel
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Mississippi State will be a shell of their former self under Dan Mullen.
That was as good as it gets for them.
It might not show up this year, but soon...
If your 15-20 years old.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:01 am to The Winner
KT is not the guy to run this offense. Not this year. Not next year. Not ever. Mayden has already nearly caught him and as soon as the true freshman gets used to game speed in this league he will pass him as well. If KT was going to redshirt, Joe would have done that last year. He will transfer as soon as he loses the qb job to Stevens (I mean no one seriously thinks we are bringing in Stevens to be anything other than the starter right?), and then we will go to a redshirt soph or redshirt fresh the next year at qb.
As far as Stevens goes, I think he will be a pretty big upgrade over KT, and I still think he will be just average. KT sucks.
As far as Stevens goes, I think he will be a pretty big upgrade over KT, and I still think he will be just average. KT sucks.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 1:02 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:29 am to peepingcrxxms
It is a shame to see one of our own fans run down one of our own players.
I would venture to say that we don’t have a big enough sample of actual game experience to say if KT can be the starter for the next two years or not.
His overall stats are not bad but not necessarily great either. But to just dismiss him especially over a spring scrimmage that was meaningless is a bit premature.
Grad transfers seem to be a mixed bag. Minshew was the rare exception at what he did.
If Stevens does come here and he earns the starting QB position, great. But there is no guarantee that will happen.
Lastly, for anyone that says Moorhead will be on the hot seat after two years, I am not sure how to even address that. Ridiculous, short sighted, impatient, immature etc.
I would venture to say that we don’t have a big enough sample of actual game experience to say if KT can be the starter for the next two years or not.
His overall stats are not bad but not necessarily great either. But to just dismiss him especially over a spring scrimmage that was meaningless is a bit premature.
Grad transfers seem to be a mixed bag. Minshew was the rare exception at what he did.
If Stevens does come here and he earns the starting QB position, great. But there is no guarantee that will happen.
Lastly, for anyone that says Moorhead will be on the hot seat after two years, I am not sure how to even address that. Ridiculous, short sighted, impatient, immature etc.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:33 am to Jjdoc
Jjdoc
stop talking.
stop talking.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:18 am to The Winner
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For any MSU fan that is confident in him, do you think we win more games in 2019 than in 2018? If not then that should answer your question.
Can't blame that on Moorhead. Even back before Mullen left many State fans were predicting a big dropoff from 2018 to 2019 due to graduating seniors and early draftees.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:25 am to MullenBoys
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The truth is, no, we did not have good receivers this last year and Fitzgerald is not a true QB.
What Mullen was able to do was create mismatches and get guys in space. Moorhead is coming in with his own ideas and has to recruit for his offense. He was stubborn not using Kylin Hill more and that is something every MSU fan agrees on.
However, truth be, if you can’t pass the ball, defenses line up to stop the run so I give him an out there. Again, he has 2 years to show us what he does.
Also, he was the OC at Penn State before he came here (something you left out) and Penn State broke school records his second year on offense.
Moorheads offense did provide open receivers. But often:
1) Fitz didn't see them.
2) Fitz couldn't throw to them.
3) The receivers dropped them.
Last season State was two dropped passes from 10-3.
We will see improvement in State's offense in 2019 because 1) and 2) will improve. We will see a LOT of improvement if 3) will improve.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:36 am to Jjdoc
The verdict is still out on Moorhead as a HC in the SEC. Anyone that says he was a bad hire is holding out hope that they're accidentally right. Too many unknowns at the present.
Yes, we are getting Tommy Stevens, will announce this week. It's pretty much known at this point throughout the MSU orbit. Stevens will help us win the games we're supposed to win, and some of those games were questionable before this option was available. Having said that, I'm cautiously optimistic and think we yield one more win out of this deal, possibly two. This kid is a true dual threat.
Yes, we are getting Tommy Stevens, will announce this week. It's pretty much known at this point throughout the MSU orbit. Stevens will help us win the games we're supposed to win, and some of those games were questionable before this option was available. Having said that, I'm cautiously optimistic and think we yield one more win out of this deal, possibly two. This kid is a true dual threat.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:16 am to MedDawg
You know that drop Guidry had against Iowa in the end zone... if you look at the replay it looks like Fitz overthrew Austin Williams (i think was the wr) on a 7 yard slant, but it happened to land in Guidry's lap and he wasn't ready for it, so in otherwords there were 2 screwups on that one play... both were actually open.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:01 am to Godawgs4
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Lastly, for anyone that says Moorhead will be on the hot seat after two years, I am not sure how to even address that. Ridiculous, short sighted, impatient, immature etc.
Raise your standards. This isn’t the same MSU where getting 5 wins is acceptable any more. Expect better. I do.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:10 am to yatesdog38
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Fitz overthrew Austin Williams
This is exactly what happened, but Guidry still should have caught the ball.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:11 am to Jma313
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Raise your standards
Threatening a new coach after 1 year isn't raising any standards. It's committing program suicide.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:39 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:The revolving door has done wonders at Tennessee, although admittedly I think everyone got more than one year.
Threatening a new coach after 1 year isn't raising any standards. It's committing program suicide.
Side note, which would smell worse. Burt on a griddle or Morehead? Im assuming Burt had hickory smoke seasoning in his veins by the time he left Arkansas so I'll go with that.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:52 am to LouisvilleKat
if this is a fat joke you are about 6 months late. Coach Jo has lost like 40 pounds.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:56 am to LouisvilleKat
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Side note, which would smell worse. Burt on a griddle or Morehead?
Bite your tongue
Coach JoMO ditched the fried catfish diet and got after it in the off-season.
I just hope he got as serious about the offense
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:02 am to MullenBoys
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He was stubborn not using Kylin Hill more and that is something every MSU fan agrees on.
He benched a Sr RB who had over 1000 yard rushing the year before.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:07 am to Godawgs4
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I would venture to say that we don’t have a big enough sample of actual game experience to say if KT can be the starter for the next two years or not.
To be honest, you don't matter. Nor does any fan. You are not the one who decides who is good enough. Moorhead has made that decision. Thompson is not ready. If he were, he would not have gone after several transfers....
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His overall stats are not bad but not necessarily great either.
Anybody here agree that a 46% is not equal to being bad? Anybody? Hello? Anybody think that it's good?
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If Stevens does come here and he earns the starting QB position, great. But there is no guarantee that will happen.
It's 100% done unless Stevens backs out. He's not going to MS St to be a back up! He was told he will start.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:12 am to The Winner
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For any MSU fan that is confident in him, do you think we win more games in 2019 than in 2018? If not then that should answer your question. After all the excuse is he didn't have his player and he needs time to implement his dumb system.
That is total BS. We probably won't win 8 games this coming season, but that is because of all the Seniors leaving the team, and the fact that Mullen's recruiting in his last couple of seasons sucked. If we do not see improvement in 2020, then we have a problem on our hands.
And I don't know why you think the "excuse" last year was that Moorhead needed time to implement his system. That may be what some idiots on the Internet said, but I never heard Moorhead say that. There were obviously some offensive players who never quite figured things out, but it wasn't due to Moorhead's system requiring time.
This year, I'm just looking for the offense to be more organized, and to be able to score some points against tough defenses. Total wins will not necessarily be the measure for improvement.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:15 am to yatesdog38
quote:He looks like he's lost more than that. Good for Joe, he's got the discipline and sense to use those MSU trainers/nutritionists to his advantage.
if this is a fat joke you are about 6 months late. Coach Jo has lost like 40 pounds.
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