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re: Will Moorhead be on the hot seat? Brings in Grad Transfer QB.... can he keep Thompson
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:16 am to yatesdog38
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:16 am to yatesdog38
quote:More a shot at Bert and his love of all things bacon. Congrats to Morehead on the weight loss though.
if this is a fat joke you are about 6 months late. Coach Jo has lost like 40 pounds.
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:36 am to LouisvilleKat
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Congrats to Morehead on the weight loss though.
Not gonna lie, I'm nervous about this. Good for Joe, don't get me wrong, but the last time we had a coach spend the off-season committed to his health was 2016 when Dan ran the Boston Marathon. We heard about it 24/7.
Then he goes out and loses to South Alabama
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:58 pm to MullenBoys
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Also, he was the OC at Penn State before he came here (something you left out) and Penn State broke school records his second year on offense.
I left it out because being a head coach is a completely different job than being an OC. There's a decent list of great coordinators who relatively failed as a HC.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:28 pm to Jjdoc
If you look at three of the games where KT played the majority of the game, then you can qualify those stats a bit.
2017-thrust into action after Fitz’s injury in the Egg Bowl. After some early mistakes, played well down the stretch but ran out of time.
2018- Bowl game outplayed the Heisman Trophy winner.
2018-was not great against SF Austin but play calling had something to do with that.
If we just hand the starting job to a player not even on the roster yet, that would be pathetic and very poor coaching.
If KT wins the QB starting job and plays 4-6 straight games, then you can fairly evaluate him. If the Stevens guy comes in and wins the job, that is great but there should be no guarantees.
2017-thrust into action after Fitz’s injury in the Egg Bowl. After some early mistakes, played well down the stretch but ran out of time.
2018- Bowl game outplayed the Heisman Trophy winner.
2018-was not great against SF Austin but play calling had something to do with that.
If we just hand the starting job to a player not even on the roster yet, that would be pathetic and very poor coaching.
If KT wins the QB starting job and plays 4-6 straight games, then you can fairly evaluate him. If the Stevens guy comes in and wins the job, that is great but there should be no guarantees.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:34 pm to Godawgs4
OM defense 2017 = laughable
Louisville Peter Sirmon defense non-existant
Stephen F Austin = do i need to explain more?
and still has a sub 50% passing percentage. need i say more about KT's opponents?
Louisville Peter Sirmon defense non-existant
Stephen F Austin = do i need to explain more?
and still has a sub 50% passing percentage. need i say more about KT's opponents?
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:15 pm to Godawgs4
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If you look at three of the games where KT played the majority of the game
Well balls! Why don't we just look at that ONE PASS?!
He is a 46% passer. Period. no... "but but buts". 46%.
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2017-thrust into action after Fitz’s injury in the Egg Bowl. After some early mistakes, played well down the stretch but ran out of time.
Made some early mistakes.. and then "but but but but". Those mistakes count. He threw less than 50% and a qbr of.... 18.6
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2018- Bowl game outplayed the Heisman Trophy winner.
That's not saying much considering he was not the Heisman winner that year. So it's not really a comparison at all.
Thompson was 1 incomplete pass away from being a 50% passer in that game against the 66th ranked passing defense. Not only that, but he was well UNDER the average they allowed.... almost 100 yards worth with ZERO passing TDS
Thompson vs the #66 defense
Jackson vs a top 10 defense
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Does not equal out playing him. They were not facing the same team and equal defenses...
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2018-was not great against SF Austin but play calling had something to do with that.
Dude... just no. No it didn't. It had to do with his accuracy. It had to do with him not making the reads properly with speed.
He was fricking 41% againt a team NOBODY can even name the mascot of.
41%!!!!
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If we just hand the starting job to a player not even on the roster yet, that would be pathetic and very poor coaching.
BS!
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:20 pm to Jjdoc
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He was fricking 41% againt a team NOBODY can even name the mascot of.
They're the Lumberjacks, but yes I agree with the premise, KT is awful in Moorhead's offense.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:21 pm to BhamBlazeDog
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They're the Lumberjacks, but yes I agree with the premise, KT is awful in Moorhead's offense.
You had to look that up...
Look.... he was bad under Mullen. But he is young and has room to grow.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:11 pm to Jjdoc
I guess all of this negativity started in 1996 when our own fans booed Derrick Tate at Scott Field. Our own fans. That was such a disappointing moment in my life of being State fan/alum.
So you guys are okay with just giving QB starting job to someone who is not even on the roster as of yet?
To read someone denigrate one of our own players who to this point really has not played enough (in game action) to fairly evaluate.
We all want to win but your attitude ensures that we will be back to losing seasons before long if your script is followed. I certainly don’t want to go down the same rabbit hole that UT/Arkansas have done over the last 8-10 years. See where that has gotten those two programs.
So you guys are okay with just giving QB starting job to someone who is not even on the roster as of yet?
To read someone denigrate one of our own players who to this point really has not played enough (in game action) to fairly evaluate.
We all want to win but your attitude ensures that we will be back to losing seasons before long if your script is followed. I certainly don’t want to go down the same rabbit hole that UT/Arkansas have done over the last 8-10 years. See where that has gotten those two programs.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:18 pm to Godawgs4
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So you guys are okay with just giving QB starting job to someone who is not even on the roster as of yet?
Since it's a new coach trying to get players for his system I can at least see the point. I'm not warm and fuzzy about it though.
But, we all remember Tyson Lee trying to run Croom's offense because there was no one else to play QB. This is much better problem to have
Posted on 5/14/19 at 6:33 pm to Jjdoc
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Anybody here agree that a 46% is not equal to being bad? Anybody? Hello? Anybody think that it's good?
And that 46% is fools gold mostly racked up against very bad defenses.
If KT is the starter the ceiling is 6 wins, he would have been killer in the Mullen offense he was recruited for though, it is what it is.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:38 pm to Godawgs4
KT will not be on the roster in 4 months. I’m sure he is a fine person. I’m sure Dan Mullen would turn him into a Star in his system. He’s not accurate enough to play qb in this offense. We are getting a grad transfer 3 months before the first game. If that doesn’t send red flashing lights off above your head I don’t know what will. He will never be our quarterback.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:43 pm to Godawgs4
Our head coach is the one giving the starting job to someone else not on campus. Does that not tell you everything you need to know about the situation? Wake up. He will call it a competition but Stevens is leaving Penn state because they would not name him the starter. He is not coming here without assurances.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:14 pm to yatesdog38
KT was a true freshman in 2017. Not many QBs look great then. Outside of SFA we didn't see him much last year and Moorhead seemed unwilling to develop him last year to help this season. Made no sense to me. So I honestly don't know how much he's progressed or if he's any better than a Penn State QB who's had 0 starts.
But it certainly is concerning that he's been jumping all over grad transfer QBs like this. And ecspecially now that spring ball is over.
But it certainly is concerning that he's been jumping all over grad transfer QBs like this. And ecspecially now that spring ball is over.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:15 pm to peepingcrxxms
Kentucky grabbed another grad transfer QB so he's not going to go there.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 11:30 pm to The Winner
Oh he’s coming to state per the recruiting gurus. Should announce this week.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:05 am to Godawgs4
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So you guys are okay with just giving QB starting job to someone who is not even on the roster as of yet?
That's the name of the game.
- We ask coaches to win
- We pay them millions to win
- We FIRE them when they don't
- You can't ask a coach to NOT do what he feels will allow him to win... which is what you hied him to do.
You are literally asking him to ignore everything he has seen from his QBs over the past year and be ok with the sky screaming if KT can not run his offense.
That's insanity!
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To read someone denigrate one of our own players who to this point really has not played enough (in game action) to fairly evaluate.
That's not true. I'm not one of your own, but am a fan after my own team.
Second it's not true that he has not been evaluated. He has. Every day since Moorhead stepped on campus.
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We all want to win but your attitude ensures that we will be back to losing seasons before long if your script is followed. I certainly don’t want to go down the same rabbit hole that UT/Arkansas have done over the last 8-10 years. See where that has gotten those two programs.
You don't understand why those 2 programs went down the hole. It has zero to do with bringing in a grad Transfer to be QB.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:07 am to peepingcrxxms
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KT will not be on the roster in 4 months.
I don't ban bet, but if I did, this would be one that I would take.
Thompson will stay at MSU
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:12 am to The Winner
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Outside of SFA we didn't see him much last year and Moorhead seemed unwilling to develop him last year to help this season
Unwilling to develop a QB... WTH does that even mean? You can't be suggesting that he, for some mysterious reason, decided not to train KT.
You need to get serious. You have a great coach who has a great system.
He knows what he needs. He needed an explosive back so he benched a 1000 yard SENIOR RB for a SO. A SO. You saw how that offense was stuck due to not having a passer... and Fitz competed more of his passes than KT.
If you are actually thinking that Moorhead didn't play the better player, I challenge you to rethink and look at it logically.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:45 am to Vecchio Cane
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Not gonna lie, I'm nervous about this. Good for Joe, don't get me wrong, but the last time we had a coach spend the off-season committed to his health was 2016 when Dan ran the Boston Marathon. We heard about it 24/7.
Then he goes out and loses to South Alabama
Apple's to oranges
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