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re: Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:58 pm to JonMwanG
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:58 pm to JonMwanG
It depends on a lot of variables. Assuming that Saban leaves on good terms without managing a decline on his own watch, Alabama will likely be a great program for 4-5 years as long as the coach isn’t actively awful. The quality of the hire will dictate if they can stay great. Of course a “great” program is not what Saban has going on right now. Saban’s leading what is possibly the defining standard of excellence for generations. So the competitive landscape will definitely improve for everyone around them but it won’t be like everyone gets their free hits in on Alabama either.
Everything I read on how the Bryant twilight went indicates that Bryant and his staff really declined in quality of they last few years after the 1979 title. They missed a bunch on recruits and Bryant was in such bad health he lacked the capacity to pivot the program - like he did a decade earlier - once again as football started changing in the early 1980s. It left Perkins in a terrible position because the program was in flimsy shape when he got there.
If people want to see the post-Stallings to Saban time period Alabama that is often exceptionally average to bad, they need to hope that Saban keeps on coaching when he’s lost his edge. He doesn’t seem like the type to do that but there’s your vector.
Everything I read on how the Bryant twilight went indicates that Bryant and his staff really declined in quality of they last few years after the 1979 title. They missed a bunch on recruits and Bryant was in such bad health he lacked the capacity to pivot the program - like he did a decade earlier - once again as football started changing in the early 1980s. It left Perkins in a terrible position because the program was in flimsy shape when he got there.
If people want to see the post-Stallings to Saban time period Alabama that is often exceptionally average to bad, they need to hope that Saban keeps on coaching when he’s lost his edge. He doesn’t seem like the type to do that but there’s your vector.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:09 pm to JonMwanG
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Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?
It had been pretty mediocre until this year, tbh.
Can't wait to see Saban kick it into a sustained high gear.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:04 pm to pointman
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It will be the same as before Saban. No good coach in his right mind will take that job. The fan base are a bunch of a-holes. Who is his right mind will want to follow god. This school will be a desert for 100 years after god.
Quality melt
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:39 am to geauxbrown
quote:I don't know about obliterate, but he has surpassed the Bear, I have been following Bama since The Bear arrived and Saban has brought us to heights we never enjoyed
IMO he has obliterated Bryant.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:00 am to JonMwanG
Bama is the only team that has won an sec championship in every decade since the league was formed
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:16 am to AUstar
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Alabama has always won. Even Dumbose won an SEC title. Of course, Fulmer turned them in for cheating not long after that which may have had something to do with it.
Will the next coach win 7 NC's in a 10 year period? Zero chance of that. On the other hand, will they be 7-5 every year? Hell no. They will go back to 9-3, 10-2 and compete for the SEC every year as well as a NC every few years.
If Dabo comes home he too won't win on this level or manner. But he will win on an NC level. There are a lot of guys coaching now that can't win a NC where they are at now, but could at Alabama. This is just not a football program that anyone would be able to predict their demise in normal terms, unless, of course, it's just jealousy and envy doing all the talking. Been known to be the motivation a time or two through history.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:29 am to bamameister
quote:Ain't gonna happen any time soon, my friend. The older portion of the BoT and athletic boosters ($$$) are going to have to kick the bucket before that can happen. At present, his personality doesn't fit Alabama's style.
If Dabo comes home h
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:40 am to coachcrisp
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Ain't gonna happen any time soon, my friend. The older portion of the BoT and athletic boosters ($$$) are going to have to kick the bucket before that can happen. At present, his personality doesn't fit Alabama's style.
That's fine. For the reasons mentioned, the program is bigger than any coach we could hire.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:03 am to JonMwanG
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Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?
Other SEC team mediocrity? No.
Bama mediocrity - 10-2 every other year and a natty every 10 years? Possibly but we'll probably still be better than that.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:25 am to Rogelio
quote:people think bama will hire some shite coach. Not going to happen, we know how that goes and is not happening again.
Other SEC team mediocrity? No.
Bama mediocrity - 10-2 every other year and a natty every 10 years? Possibly but we'll probably still be better than that.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:34 am to JonMwanG
Are they hiring O or a good coach?
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:45 am to pointman
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It will be the same as before Saban. No good coach in his right mind will take that job. The fan base are a bunch of assholes. Who is his right mind will want to follow god. This school will be a desert for 100 years after god.
When Saban retires, it will signal the end of football in America.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:50 am to JonMwanG
Alabama mediocrity =/= Mississippi State mediocrity
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:00 am to JonMwanG
I don't know about mediocrity but God bless whoever has to follow him
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:01 am to JonMwanG
Like everybody else, depends on who they hire
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:05 am to bamaboy87
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You say "back to mediocrity" as if it were the norm for Alabama pre-Saban.
If you go back to the beginning of the SEC up to 2006 and ask who the greatest SEC program was, it would be, without question, Alabama. We were a blue blood before Saban, we will be a blue blood after saban.
We were in a dry spell. Lessons were learned.
Will the greatest dynasty in the history of the sport--and one of the greatest in all sports--continue? Probably not.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:48 am to JonMwanG
They probably wont win a title 6 times out of 12 years like they have under Saban. But they'll be in the mix as always unless they hire a complete turd...
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:32 pm to LSUgrad88
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You probably really believe that's the general consensus. Bless your heart.
I was downvote number 8
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:39 pm to JonMwanG
Bless yo heart. Hogtown genius.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 1:14 pm to JonMwanG
Relative to the Saban era, probably: relative to the SEC, probably not.
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