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re: Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?

Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:58 pm to
It depends on a lot of variables. Assuming that Saban leaves on good terms without managing a decline on his own watch, Alabama will likely be a great program for 4-5 years as long as the coach isn’t actively awful. The quality of the hire will dictate if they can stay great. Of course a “great” program is not what Saban has going on right now. Saban’s leading what is possibly the defining standard of excellence for generations. So the competitive landscape will definitely improve for everyone around them but it won’t be like everyone gets their free hits in on Alabama either.

Everything I read on how the Bryant twilight went indicates that Bryant and his staff really declined in quality of they last few years after the 1979 title. They missed a bunch on recruits and Bryant was in such bad health he lacked the capacity to pivot the program - like he did a decade earlier - once again as football started changing in the early 1980s. It left Perkins in a terrible position because the program was in flimsy shape when he got there.

If people want to see the post-Stallings to Saban time period Alabama that is often exceptionally average to bad, they need to hope that Saban keeps on coaching when he’s lost his edge. He doesn’t seem like the type to do that but there’s your vector.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18162 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:09 pm to
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Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?

It had been pretty mediocre until this year, tbh.

Can't wait to see Saban kick it into a sustained high gear.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4687 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:04 pm to
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It will be the same as before Saban. No good coach in his right mind will take that job. The fan base are a bunch of a-holes. Who is his right mind will want to follow god. This school will be a desert for 100 years after god.



Quality melt
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:39 am to
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IMO he has obliterated Bryant.

I don't know about obliterate, but he has surpassed the Bear, I have been following Bama since The Bear arrived and Saban has brought us to heights we never enjoyed
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:00 am to
Bama is the only team that has won an sec championship in every decade since the league was formed
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13934 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:16 am to
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Alabama has always won. Even Dumbose won an SEC title. Of course, Fulmer turned them in for cheating not long after that which may have had something to do with it.

Will the next coach win 7 NC's in a 10 year period? Zero chance of that. On the other hand, will they be 7-5 every year? Hell no. They will go back to 9-3, 10-2 and compete for the SEC every year as well as a NC every few years.



If Dabo comes home he too won't win on this level or manner. But he will win on an NC level. There are a lot of guys coaching now that can't win a NC where they are at now, but could at Alabama. This is just not a football program that anyone would be able to predict their demise in normal terms, unless, of course, it's just jealousy and envy doing all the talking. Been known to be the motivation a time or two through history.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:29 am to
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If Dabo comes home h
Ain't gonna happen any time soon, my friend. The older portion of the BoT and athletic boosters ($$$) are going to have to kick the bucket before that can happen. At present, his personality doesn't fit Alabama's style.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13934 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:40 am to
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Ain't gonna happen any time soon, my friend. The older portion of the BoT and athletic boosters ($$$) are going to have to kick the bucket before that can happen. At present, his personality doesn't fit Alabama's style.




That's fine. For the reasons mentioned, the program is bigger than any coach we could hire.
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:03 am to
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Will Alabama be back to mediocrity when Nick Saban is gone?



Other SEC team mediocrity? No.

Bama mediocrity - 10-2 every other year and a natty every 10 years? Possibly but we'll probably still be better than that.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:25 am to
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Other SEC team mediocrity? No.

Bama mediocrity - 10-2 every other year and a natty every 10 years? Possibly but we'll probably still be better than that.
people think bama will hire some shite coach. Not going to happen, we know how that goes and is not happening again.
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
TrampaBay
Member since Apr 2010
3679 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:34 am to
Are they hiring O or a good coach?
Posted by Judah Mann
Houston Area
Member since Aug 2016
2033 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:45 am to
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It will be the same as before Saban. No good coach in his right mind will take that job. The fan base are a bunch of assholes. Who is his right mind will want to follow god. This school will be a desert for 100 years after god.


When Saban retires, it will signal the end of football in America.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2636 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:50 am to
Alabama mediocrity =/= Mississippi State mediocrity
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:00 am to
I don't know about mediocrity but God bless whoever has to follow him
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:01 am to
Like everybody else, depends on who they hire
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9668 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:05 am to
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You say "back to mediocrity" as if it were the norm for Alabama pre-Saban.


If you go back to the beginning of the SEC up to 2006 and ask who the greatest SEC program was, it would be, without question, Alabama. We were a blue blood before Saban, we will be a blue blood after saban.

We were in a dry spell. Lessons were learned.

Will the greatest dynasty in the history of the sport--and one of the greatest in all sports--continue? Probably not.
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:48 am to
They probably wont win a title 6 times out of 12 years like they have under Saban. But they'll be in the mix as always unless they hire a complete turd...

Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

You probably really believe that's the general consensus. Bless your heart.


I was downvote number 8

Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:39 pm to
Bless yo heart. Hogtown genius.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2895 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 1:14 pm to
Relative to the Saban era, probably: relative to the SEC, probably not.
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