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Why don’t new coaches coach a bowl?
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:27 am
It’s weird to me for a new coach to not be on the sideline. I know this is normal, but it’s still odd to see the head coach watching the game away from the team. Have an old assistant next to you helping out giving directions and recommendations.
But a new CEO wouldn’t be ‘on the sidelines’ letting someone else make the calls without them involved.
Is there not a better solution then 0 involvement with the players?
But a new CEO wouldn’t be ‘on the sidelines’ letting someone else make the calls without them involved.
Is there not a better solution then 0 involvement with the players?
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Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:29 am to baldona
Maybe they dont want to befriend coaches they about to fire and players they are about to process.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:31 am to baldona
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It’s weird
It depends on when they join.
But, given the early hires with the ESD effect, they absolutely should coach with what they have on staff
It is odd that a "leader" of a team wouldn't opt to lead their team. Everyone scared of an L in a bowl game I guess.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:31 am to Crow Pie
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Maybe they dont want to befriend coaches they about to fire and players they are about to process
So you are saying they are too cowardly to coach?
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:31 am to Crow Pie
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Maybe they dont want to befriend coaches they about to fire and players they are about to process.
Or, maybe they validate the remaining staff under their philosophy and retain more
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:32 am to baldona
“Here, learn my playbook in two weeks”
Also it’s unfair to put a loss on a new coach that’s been there for no time at all
Also it’s unfair to put a loss on a new coach that’s been there for no time at all
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 12/24/21 at 10:02 am to CNB
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“Here, learn my playbook in two weeks”
This
Posted on 12/24/21 at 10:21 am to baldona
It gives the new coach more time to get to know the players and his new staff without the time constraints of bowl preps.
There are unsigned current commits and recruiting targets to meet. The new coach can spend time evaluating possible future recruits, meeting and greeting big time donors, getting the feel of the politics of the athletic department and the academic attitude.
There are unsigned current commits and recruiting targets to meet. The new coach can spend time evaluating possible future recruits, meeting and greeting big time donors, getting the feel of the politics of the athletic department and the academic attitude.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 10:34 am to baldona
It's not just no involvement from the new coaches in the bowl game, it's also in the practices. I've never questioned it until now. Teams are permitted 15 practices before the bowl game, but Florida's outgoing staff only used 4 or 5. They had a month to prepare and only had 4 or 5 practices. Clearly they couldn't give a shite and just wanted to be done. The new coaches don't want to interfere and cause confusion, so they hang back.
At what point does it become important for the incoming coach to make use of those 15 practices? I understand they won't implement a new system, but maybe they should still come in and make sure the outgoing coaches are still doing their job.
At what point does it become important for the incoming coach to make use of those 15 practices? I understand they won't implement a new system, but maybe they should still come in and make sure the outgoing coaches are still doing their job.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:26 am to baldona
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It’s weird to me for a new coach to not be on the sideline. I know this is normal, but it’s still odd to see the head coach watching the game away from the team. Have an old assistant next to you helping out giving directions and recommendations.
But a new CEO wouldn’t be ‘on the sidelines’ letting someone else make the calls without them involved.
Is there not a better solution then 0 involvement with the players?
Can't speak for anyone but OU. On Defense, 3-4 of OU's better players opted out for the draft. BV's scheme can't be implemented in 15 practices. He still does not have two of his D coaches announced/available. Two of the former D coaches have come back to help with the only D the players know.
Offensively, OU is going to be interesting in that they kept most of the coaches on that side, but again Lebby's offense is totally different than what TBoW ran. The good news is that TBoW was so paranoid that the players will actually know what their first offensive play will be, before going out on the field. That will be a first in three years. At least I don't think I will be yelling at the TV because TBoW abandoned the running play that was working, because teams were playeing two-high safeties and start throwing long passes right at them.
For the first time in three years, the players are being shown potential plays based on situations and then see film related to that. TBoW never wanted anyone to know what he was going to do, including the players.
BV has been "observing". And the new coaches can "observe". But, there are still rules on how many coaches can actually interact with the players. and Bob has taken over the HC duties.
Tough on the kids. But learning drastically different offenses and defenses would not be fair on the kids.
Again, can't speak for any other schools.
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:32 am to baldona
It’s simple. They are quitters.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:35 am to baldona
It only happened once in recent memory (2002 Washington State) and went horribly wrong.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:45 am to CNB
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“Here, learn my playbook in two weeks”
Also it’s unfair to put a loss on a new coach that’s been there for no time at all
And the converse- the new coach having to learn the old playbook in two weeks, just to scrap it after the bowl.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 2:08 pm to baldona
In case they lose a la Florida. Better to distance yourself from the stench and start fresh.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 2:16 pm to baldona
Tough to come in on short notice and coach a bunch of guys you have zero rapport with.
Posted on 12/24/21 at 2:29 pm to labamafan
Coach Cutcliffes 1st game as Ole Miss coach was the Independence Bowl in 1997 after Tuberville left after the Egg Bowl for Auburn.
He coached the Rebs to a victory that day over Texas Tech.
He coached the Rebs to a victory that day over Texas Tech.
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