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re: Why do people pretend that Kiffin is a good head coach?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:28 pm to VivaZapata27
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:28 pm to VivaZapata27
Maybe, sure. But the losses should be noted somewhere. Losing an SEC starter but signing a G5 starter should not result in positive portal credit.
Not necessarily OM. What about A&M? They could finish high in the portal rankings and still be way behind their losses.
In 2022 Kiffin was called the portal king and went from 10-3 in 2021 to 8-5 with the easiest schedule in the SEC. Should he have been called the portal king last year?
Not necessarily OM. What about A&M? They could finish high in the portal rankings and still be way behind their losses.
In 2022 Kiffin was called the portal king and went from 10-3 in 2021 to 8-5 with the easiest schedule in the SEC. Should he have been called the portal king last year?
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:33 pm to hubreb
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4 10 wins seasons in 11 years, only one losing season
and 5 loss seasons in about half of them too. It also deserves mentioning 2 of those 10 win seasons were at FAU. His record at p5 schools isn't anything crazy good. He's 58-34 with a conference record of 35-27. So he's basically been about an 8-5 type of coach with a conference record hovering around .500. I wouldn't call that bad, but I think the OP's question of why people call him a good coach is somewhat valid. I certainly don't think he's as good as his salary would suggest
To me, he's great at developing QB and has a good offensive mind, but his decision making as a HC, his overall recruiting, and fielding a good defense leave a lot to be desired.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:34 pm to Flipper94
quote:When they get a future NFL HOFer at QB.
But when is he going to win the West… just once?
Just like the last time Ole Miss won the west.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:35 pm to MedDawg
We’ve lost like 5 guys who were actually going to play and replaced them with guys who are 100% going to play.
Players like Walker Howard, Chris Marshall, Suntarine Perkins and Ayden Williams are elite additions.
State’s #1 player is at UGA now.
And you replaced him with nobody.
Players like Walker Howard, Chris Marshall, Suntarine Perkins and Ayden Williams are elite additions.
State’s #1 player is at UGA now.
And you replaced him with nobody.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:38 pm to MedDawg
Yes, he was the portal king. We completely retooled the roster with mostly younger players like Dart, Trigg, Ivey, Tennison and Pegues. It was always a rebuild year. And we did not have the easiest schedule. Years where we play Arkansas, LSU, and TAMU on the road and Bama at home are our hardest years for obvious reasons. A pretty auto home loss and three of your five other division opponents on the road. I wouldn’t mind having an average rating of outgoing portals, but only to analyze my own team. But I have a really good grasp of the difference without it. Just like you would with State.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:40 pm to nicholastiger
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Will be interesting to see how blowing up the dynamics of your team and the locker room impacts the QB position
He obviously should have only kept one qb on the roster to not blow up the dynamics of the team.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:42 pm to VivaZapata27
Also, best I can tell we’ve only lost two starting players to the portal in two years. And one of them is Igbinosun, who we have a chance of returning. We cannot win high school recruiting like Georgia and Alabama can. But we’ve proven we can get the same type of players through the portal two years in a row now. I think it gives us a chance.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:43 pm to lsufball19
Kiffin is considered a good coach because he’s an elite offensive mind.
He’s taken Ole Miss teams with average talent and has had Ole Miss ranked in the top 10 in consecutive seasons.
I think if he can continue adding talent and let Golding handle the defense, he will have Ole Miss consistently competing for playoff spots in a 12 team playoff.
That’s pretty fricking good for Ole Miss. There are 100+ other college football programs that would kill for that.
He’s taken Ole Miss teams with average talent and has had Ole Miss ranked in the top 10 in consecutive seasons.
I think if he can continue adding talent and let Golding handle the defense, he will have Ole Miss consistently competing for playoff spots in a 12 team playoff.
That’s pretty fricking good for Ole Miss. There are 100+ other college football programs that would kill for that.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:51 pm to hubreb
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4 10 wins seasons in 11 years, only one losing season
Averages 4 losses a season. Including a stint at USC which shouldn’t be hard to win at
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:57 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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I think if he can continue adding talent and let Golding handle the defense, he will have Ole Miss consistently competing for playoff spots in a 12 team playoff.
That’s pretty fricking good for Ole Miss. There are 100+ other college football programs that would kill for that.
Sure that would be good at Ole Miss, but I also think that's wishful thinking if those are your expectations of him. He's never consistently competed in the top 12 as a P5 coach. And in the SEC, especially with the additions of OU and TX, I just don't see that happening consistently going forward. Obviously time will tell
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:58 pm to Flipper94
Only idiots think he’s good
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:33 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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He's like Leach except he never wins the games he shouldn't.
Kinda sounds like Sarkisian so far.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:34 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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Walker Howard
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elite addition
Huh?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:37 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Kinda sounds like Sarkisian so far.
I definitely agree that Sark shares similarities w/ Kiffin. Jimbo as well, but at least Jimbo got to the top of the mountain once.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 5:59 pm to Flipper94
Who thinks he's a good coach?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:06 pm to Flipper94
OP is correct. Kiffin greatly over rated.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:34 pm to Flipper94
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He can coach an offense. That’s it.
well.....ok. We didn't hire him because of his defensive prowess. That's what we pay DC's for.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:02 pm to Flipper94
KIFFIN HAS YET TO BEAT AN SEC TEAM THAT FINISHED WITH A WINNING RECORD IN CONFERENCE PLAY!!!
(yes, I capitalized that sentence....)
(yes, I capitalized that sentence....)
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:06 pm to truth22
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KIFFIN HAS YET TO BEAT AN SEC TEAM THAT FINISHED WITH A WINNING RECORD IN CONFERENCE PLAY!!!
And he's undefeated vs Aggie.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:59 pm to ManBearSharkReb
Walker Howard ? Lol
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