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re: Why do Ole Miss fans still embrace the "Rebel" nickname?

Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6892 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:21 pm to
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Do they still sell Uncle Ben's Rice in Oxford?



I don't know, but I'd eat Aunt Jemima's pancakes !
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2262 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:29 pm to
Regardless of everything else, it was awesome when the Ole Miss band cranked up Dixie with that little fanfare at the beginning.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:30 pm to
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The general consensus


In other words, white snowflakes like you. Poll after poll of Native Americans (the very people you think should be offended) showed that ~80% of the didn’t care, or felt it was an honor to have a team with an Indiancentric name.
Posted by UGAnations
North Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
663 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:35 pm to
Why isn't anybody going after UNLV to change their nickname, Runnin' Rebels?
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6729 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by killedbyindians
Earth
Member since Jun 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Why isn't anybody going after UNLV to change their nickname, Runnin' Rebels?


Exactly. They were named that because of the confederates that hauled arse west after the war.
Posted by RebRxV
Member since Oct 2022
86 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:45 pm to
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It’s why admiral Ackbar should have been the mascot since he led the rebel alliance


Missed opportunity

We tried, but Lucas nixed it.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Why isn't anybody going after UNLV to change their nickname, Runnin' Rebels?


And they still have their southern gentleman/soldier mascot and logo, too.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:52 pm to
Sorry friend the Colonel was black railroad conductor
Posted by quickesst
Member since Oct 2018
141 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:07 pm to
We're all ignorant of one thing or another, otherwise there would be no need for schools, dictionaries, the experience of life itself, well, you get my drift. Just so you know your premise of ignorance being a character flaw is flawed in itself.
So, if as you believe, ignorance is bliss, WILLFUL IGNORANCE must be Manna From Heaven.
You're probably feeling pretty damn good right now. ??
Posted by windsor1977
Member since Aug 2012
1154 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:31 pm to
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quote:
Do they still sell Uncle Ben's Rice in Oxford?



I don't know, but I'd eat Aunt Jemima's pancakes !


Hell, I would eat Aunt Jemima
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4448 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Sorry friend the Colonel was black railroad conductor


Sure he was. And "Ole Miss" was the name of a train.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2921 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:54 pm to
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I'm still bummed this didn't happen:
Copyright issues?
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2921 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:57 pm to
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Sure he was. And "Ole Miss" was the name of a train.
LMAO had to google this. I thought ole miss was an endearing name for Mississippi like “good ole Alabama” or something…

Literally means slave owner’s wife… is there one tradition at ole miss that isn’t racist?
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:00 pm to
Gfy you race baiter.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18035 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:12 pm to
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Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15796 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:03 pm to
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We're all ignorant of one thing or another,


When comes to this particular topic it’s fixable ignorance.

Bruce Catton’s army of the Potomac (published 1951) is an excellent series that covers the war using primarily sources from a Union standpoint. You will quickly learn that neither sides army fought or really had an opinion on slavery. Using countless letters, dispatches, newspaper articles, and accounts from veterans of the war it will demonstrate a pre”revisionist” (accurate) account of causation behind the conflict(spoiler it was economic and political) for each side, motivation for troops on both sides, accounts of the war experience mainly from the northern point of view, and the politics driving the war( again mainly from the northern side)

Infact most pre revisionist sources (1980 at the latest) will clearly show that the north rioted (including race riots aimed a free blacks) when the draft occurred after the emancipation proclamation. And that the US foreign services were instructed by Lincoln to scrub any notion that the war was about slavery to the European powers.

But I digress.

So let’s try a different tact. Slavery was not a concept unique to the US, infact most European governments dealt with it domestically a via their colonies. Do you know the standard accepted method of ending slavery in European society? Reparations, to slave owners. That’s right, the government simply compensated the slave owner to help transition to a pay labor system. Do you know why that was never mentioned as a means to end slavery here? Because less than 2% north or south cared about slavery. A society looked into it and purchased land in Africa (Liberia) to reintroduce freed slaves into Africa after their purchase (Society for the Colonization of Free People of Color of America, later the American Colonization Society (ACS)) beginning in the 1820 had a grand design to end slavery the standard way and give each former slave group 40 acres and mule in Liberia. The plan fizzled out by the 1840s due to a lack of interest.

So no, the war was not fought over slavery. The Saint Andrews Cross (rebel flag) is a pretty standard flag of rebellion or resistance world wide. Not all slave states left the union and some none slave states supported the CSA. And I really do wish people would stop believing that history needs to have an agenda instead of accepting it and growing from it.

/rant.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35629 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Do they still sell Uncle Ben's Rice in Oxford? Asking for a friend....


No, silly. They all head over to Colonel Sanders' place for some of that fried chicken.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15796 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Literally means slave owner’s wife… is there one tradition at ole miss that isn’t racist?


It was 1st documented (that I can find) in a 1890s contest to give the university of Mississippi a nickname. You might note that by 1890 there were no slaves left and former slaves were not dwelling on their former condition. So that’s likely bullshite revisionist crap. Young Miss would denote a child but Miss or mistress would commonly denote the married females in white southern society in the south.


Posted by killedbyindians
Earth
Member since Jun 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:23 pm to
Damn good job Smokey. Thank you.
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