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re: Why can't part of the equation be Conference Champion
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:54 pm to JaxTiger10
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:54 pm to JaxTiger10
No that is not the definition.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:56 pm to BamaGradinTn
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What a fricking moron. Hey, dipshit, here's a newsflash: The BCS doesn't exist any more
Your right. We have 12 members voting 4 teams in. Its still not the ncaa fbs playoffs. I'm sorry you don't like this fact but that what it is.
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Jesus, did you ride the short bus to school?
I'm genetically superior to you gunt. I'm sorry bama can't win sec titles and have to back their way into exhibition games. Deal with it boy
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:58 pm to JaxTiger10
I'm not really concerned with the argument anymore. I am curious as to who won the 2011 national title in your eyes though
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:59 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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that is not the definition.
Yes it i. good god. If lsu isn't not the best team in the sec west , by definition, they can't be the best team in all of cfb. Are you serious, You cant be the 2nd best team in the sec west and ALSO be the best team in all of cfb. Its literally impossible.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:59 pm to JaxTiger10
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bama can't win sec titles and have to back their way into exhibition games. Deal with it boy
Are you mental or something?
Alabama can't win SEC Titles? I know your not serious.
Season Conference Coach Overall Record Conference Record
1924 Southern Wallace Wade 8–1 5–0
1925dagger Southern Wallace Wade 10–0 7–0
1926 Southern Wallace Wade 9–0–1 8–0
1930dagger Southern Wallace Wade 10–0 8–0
1933 SEC Frank Thomas 7–1–1 5–0–1
1934dagger SEC Frank Thomas 10–0 7–0
1937 SEC Frank Thomas 9–1 6–0
1945 SEC Frank Thomas 10–0 6–0
1953 SEC Harold Drew 6–3–3 4–0–3
1961dagger SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–0 7–0
1964 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 10–1 8–0
1965 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 9–1–1 6–1–1
1966dagger SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–0 6–0
1971 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 7–0
1972 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 10–2 7–1
1973 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 8–0
1974 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 6–0
1975 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 6–0
1977 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 7–0
1978 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 11–1 6–0
1979 SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 12–0 6–0
1981dagger SEC Paul "Bear" Bryant 9–2–1 7–0
1989dagger SEC Bill Curry 10–2 6–1
1992 SEC Gene Stallings 13–0 8–0
1999 SEC Mike DuBose 10–3 7–1
2009 SEC Nick Saban 14–0 8–0
2012 SEC Nick Saban 13–1 7–1
Conference Championships 23 SEC, 4 South Conf
Tell me who has more?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:02 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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I'm not really concerned with the argument anymore. I am curious as to who won the 2011 national title in your eyes though
You do realize that there is no ncaa fbs national title holder , right? Thats why they're call Mythical National Championships. There are NCAA FBS national title games because there is a set criteria before the season giving specific ways to make the postseason playoffs. There isn't in ncaa fbs. You get voted in. Its subjective. Bama win the BCS bowl in 2011. Lsu won the sec. You know the titlen you can't eyeball test your way into?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:04 pm to oneusairman
We are talking about recently. 2 sec titles in 15 years. Of course bama fans don't want conference champs only.
Hey I've just been bullshite ting with yall. I have to sharpen my arguing skills. I routinely argue with an 8 year old with no reasoning skills.
Bama was the best team in 2011. Not the most deserving.
Hey I've just been bullshite ting with yall. I have to sharpen my arguing skills. I routinely argue with an 8 year old with no reasoning skills.
Bama was the best team in 2011. Not the most deserving.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:06 pm to JaxTiger10
Did you know that in the SEC tie breaker there was a clause where a three way tie between three 11-1 teams would come down to their BCS rankings?
Hypocrite
How do you objectively choose the best sec west team if they are all 7-1 with a loss to each other? No eyeball tests...
Hypocrite
How do you objectively choose the best sec west team if they are all 7-1 with a loss to each other? No eyeball tests...
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:07 pm to JB Bama
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Did you know that in the SEC tie breaker there was a clause where a three way tie between three 11-1 teams would come down to their BCS rankings?
Something that has never happened in the sec in over 2 decades. Its the 9th tie breaker. Congrats.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:08 pm to JaxTiger10
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You cant be the 2nd best team in the sec west and ALSO be the best team in all of cfb. Its literally impossible.
Well you see there is this thing called the AP and Coaches poll. So I guess it is possible. Oh and you should be familiar with the BCS Standing as well. 2003 National Champion split between USC and LSU.
AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (59) 13-1 0
2 Oregon 12-1 0
3 Ohio State 12-0 0
4 Notre Dame 12-1 0
5 Georgia 12-2 0
5 Texas A&M 11-2 0
7 Stanford 12-2 0
8 South Carolina 11-2 0
9 Florida 11-2 0
10 Florida State 12-2 0
11 Clemson 11-2 0
12 Kansas State 11-2 0
13 Louisville 11-2 0
14 LSU 10-3 0
15 Oklahoma 10-3 0
16 Utah State 11-2 0
17 Northwestern 10-3 0
18 Boise State 11-2 0
19 Texas 9-4 0
20 Oregon State 9-4 0
21 San Jose State 11-2 0
22 Northern Illinois 12-2 0
23 Vanderbilt 9-4 0
24 Michigan 8-5 0
25 Nebraska 10-4 0
Others receiving votes:
Complete Rankings »
USA Today Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (56) 13-1 1400
2 Oregon 12-1 1322
3 Notre Dame 12-1 1253
4 Georgia 12-2 1213
5 Texas A&M 11-2 1171
6 Stanford 12-2 1167
7 South Carolina 11-2 1064
8 Florida State 12-2 942
9 Clemson 11-2 916
10 Florida 11-2 886
11 Kansas State 11-2 841
12 LSU 10-3 775
13 Louisville 11-2 772
14 Boise State 11-2 633
15 Oklahoma 10-3 600
16 Northwestern 10-3 580
17 Utah State 11-2 444
18 Texas 9-4 398
19 Oregon State 9-4 366
20 Vanderbilt 9-4 248
21 San Jose State 11-2 244
22 Cincinnati 10-3 186
23 Nebraska 10-4 175
24 Northern Illinois 12-2 156
25 Tulsa 11-3 110
Others receiving votes: Michigan 101, UCLA 75, Baylor 52, Oklahoma State 36, Wisconsin 18, UCF 15, Arkansas State 13, Arizona State 10, Rutgers 9, Kent State 5, Louisiana Tech 2, Ohio 1, Arizona 1
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:12 pm to JaxTiger10
Why don't we get credit for 1999
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:14 pm to JaxTiger10
LSU has had one over the past 6 years and 2 over the past 11 years. Wow we can play that game all night long and place a number where it should be to help both our points.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:18 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Why don't we get credit for 1999
Well you see that wouldn't help his argument on the point that Alabama doesn't win conference titles.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:15 am to BamaGradinTn
What some people are failing to see is that the team that wins the championship doesn't make you the best team, it just makes you the championship team.
The 10-6 regular season Giants beat the undefeated 16-0 regular Patriots in the Super Bowl, making them Super Bowl champions.
They weren't the best team though. The Patriots were consistently the better team, had a better record, and defeated the Giants in the regular season.
However the Giants were the champions and the Patriots were not.
Being the best team does not guarantee a championship. It gives you a hell of a good shot at it, but being champion doesn't mean you are "best"
The only way to truly determine the best team is a large sample size. However you can't have everybody play everybody else 10 times to determine who the best truly is, we have to work off a limited sample size.
And with a small sample size comes a concept known as variance.
That's why the playoff should be open to non-conference champions, however being a conference champion is obviously a huge leg up in that debate.
The 10-6 regular season Giants beat the undefeated 16-0 regular Patriots in the Super Bowl, making them Super Bowl champions.
They weren't the best team though. The Patriots were consistently the better team, had a better record, and defeated the Giants in the regular season.
However the Giants were the champions and the Patriots were not.
Being the best team does not guarantee a championship. It gives you a hell of a good shot at it, but being champion doesn't mean you are "best"
The only way to truly determine the best team is a large sample size. However you can't have everybody play everybody else 10 times to determine who the best truly is, we have to work off a limited sample size.
And with a small sample size comes a concept known as variance.
That's why the playoff should be open to non-conference champions, however being a conference champion is obviously a huge leg up in that debate.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:16 am to Diver
Will some of you ever get over the 21-0 butthurt?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:10 am to rolltide32
I think the conference championship game will most likely be harmful to the SEC while the conference is so stacked, especially since the BCS extra game calculation no longer applies.
If the balance of power evens out between the east and west the CCG will be more important.
If the balance of power evens out between the east and west the CCG will be more important.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:14 am to Dexa
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I think the conference championship game will most likely be harmful to the SEC while the conference is so stacked, especially since the BCS extra game calculation no longer applies.
It could be extremely harmful to the SEC West Champion if they lose in the SEC Championship.
Consider this: Ole Miss and Alabama win out. Ole Miss wins the West, because of their head to head win over Bama. Georgia wins East and beats Ole Miss by 1 point in SEC Title game.
There will be those that seriously think that Bama should be included in the playoff over Ole Miss due to their loss to Georgia. It would be very, very wrong to put Bama in the playoff over Ole Miss, simply because Ole Miss had to play one more game while Bama sat at home and watched.
This is a real possiblity.
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