re: Why can't part of the equation be Conference Champion

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hobo with a rolex

I think it needs to be the 5 major conference champions and three at large chosen by the committee. 8 team playoff... It only adds 1 game to the season that we have now.

I think that is where it will go eventually.

If you are for example the Big 10 conference the 4 team playoff is going to be a hard sell if it's conference champion doesn't get in the playoff. Just as the SEC would have a fit if the SEC champion is left out. I know that sounds dumb that the SEC champ would be left out but the current method of choosing the teams makes that a real possibility especially if the SEC Champ has 2 loses. If Florida State, Michigan State, Oregon, and TCU won out and the SEC Champ has 2 loses you can't tell me it won't be on the table.

To me that is a major flaw that must be corrected and can only be corrected with an 8 team playoff.

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Under the current format, this is where it will head eventually. Makes too much sense not to.

BUT... IMHO, we need a different system. Just slightly. If I were Grand Poobah of NCAA Div 1 Playoffs, here's what I would do:

1. Six major conferences, regionally based, 12 teams each, this gives 72 schools eligible for Div 1 championships
2. Mandatory conference championship, win that and you are in the playoff - plus two at large wild cards
3. Wild cards picked by major poll averages. If tied, then tiebreakers go a) head to head, b) common opponents, c) common opponents scoring differential, d) flip a coin. The easiest way in is to WIN YOUR CONFERENCE.
4. All big conference scheduling of games and bye weeks are by formula and set in stone... 5 permanent opponents, the remaining 7 games must include at least 2 games from the other conference division and 3 games from the major conferences on a home and away basis. The final two games are from the remaining Div 1 pool scheduled by schools on open dates, home and aways not required. Or neutral sites OK.
5. Say you root for a school outside one of the big 6 conferences like Boise State? There's a relegation process. Every four years, the last team in the big 6 conferences rotate OUT and six new teams with the best records rotate IN, giving them a chance to earn their way to glory. If you can't win some games, you don't deserve to be in the championship mix. Maybe Boise St. can take Washington State's place in the Pac 12, for example. Maybe Boise State will be right back out of the mix if they don't get the job done.

Anyway, just some random thoughts and ideas on an improved process.

because i'll take a 1-loss sec west division team over any other conference champion, all day long and twice on saturday ... period ...

Everybody knows if LSU was sniffing a playoff spot, conference championships at that point would not have any bearing on the process. And that's OK.

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Exactly the same. Win the division or go home no?

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No its not close to the same. The nfl has a set criteria , that never changes ,for how to make the post season.

6 teams as most, 4 must be major conference champions. Top 2 seeds get a bye - must be conference champion of any conference. Non majors and non conf champions all vie for final 2 seeds

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2011 proved you can be the best team in your conference without winning it.

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No its didn't. All 2011 proved was that Bama could beat lsu if given 2 tries. 2011 directly led to this playoff.
I definitely see why no bama fan wants conference champs only. When you have 2 sec championships in 15 years, you need any and every possible way to back your way into a bcs title. I would also like to acknowledge that wimn ok my the sec is harder than winning the bcs title was. You cant finish 2nd in the east/west and win the sec title. No amount of eyeball test can get you into the seccg.

Are you so worried OM might get in you want a garbage big 10 champ to get in?

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You morons really struggle with the concept of "best 4 teams" don't you?

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The word best is subjective as hell. What determines who is the best? You know what isn't subjective? A conference title. There has never been a discussion on whether or not the sec west champ deserved to be in the seccg.

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9 showed who the best team in the country was

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No it didn't. It showed that Bama was better that day. Over the course of the sec season, lsu was better than bama and it was proven by beating bama at bama. All 1/9 proved was , given enough chances, bama could beat lsu.