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Why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:14 pm
Current BCS Rank:
1. LSU
2. Bama
3. Arkansas
Scenario:
Alabama (11-1)
Arkansas (11-1)
LSU (11-1)
-All 3 teams would be 1-1 against the other 2.
Why Arkansas would deserve to be ranked in the top 2:
1. Arkansas would be on the third longest winning streak in the nation (8 games), third only to Houston (undefeated), and Georgia 9-2, will be on 10 game winning streak with win over Georgia Tech this weekend). Arkansas' winning streak would be capped off by winning @ #1 LSU who has not been beaten yet this season.
-LSU would have lost the last game of the regular season to Arkansas.
-Bama would be on a 3 game winning streak with a win at Auburn.
-OSU lost their most recent game to unranked Iowa State and has a bye this week before playing their last game against OU.
-Virginia Tech would be on a 7 game winning streak if they beat Virginia this weekend.
2. Arkansas would be the only team out of Bama-Ark-LSU to have had to play @ both of the other teams' stadiums, earning the same record as the other two teams who each got at least one home game in this 3-team series, and who each would have lost a home game in the series. Arkansas has not lost a home game this season.
-LSU beat Bama @ Bama, and will have lost to Arkansas at home.
-Bama beat Arkansas at home, and lost to LSU at home.
3. Arkansas would be the only team out of Bama-Ark-LSU to have played and beat one of the two ranked teams from the SEC East (#12 South Carolina). (Arkansas' other two opponents from the SEC East were Vanderbilt and Tennessee).
-LSU played Kentucky, Florida, and Tennessee.
-Bama played Vanderbilt, Florida, Tennessee.
4. Alabama's out-of-conference win at #19 Penn State (9-2) is not significantly better than Arkansas' win over Texas A&M at a neutral site. Therefore, Alabama's OOC "advantage" should be given little weight when compared to the 3 reasons above for why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2.
-Penn State has faced 2 ranked teams and lost to both (#2 Bama, #21 Nebraska).
-A&M has faced 5 ranked opponents, going 1-4 against those five (win over #17 Baylor, losses to #9 OU, #4 Ok St, #3 Arkansas, #11 Kansas State). A&M's 5th loss came to Missouri (6-5).
-For their final games, Penn State is a 18.5 point underdog to #15 Wisconsin, and A&M is a 7.5 point favorite over #25 Texas.
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Conclusion:
Based on the 4 reasons listed and explain above, Arkansas would clearly deserve to be ranked as one of the top 2 teams in the nation, if not the #1 team in the nation.
Since this is the case, it should be up for the voters to decide whether Bama or LSU should drop to 3. Since LSU won @ Bama 3 weeks ago, and since LSU has a stronger resume than Bama, the final rankings should be one of the two:
1. Arkansas
2. LSU
3. Bama
or
1. LSU
2. Arkansas
3. Bama
If the voters insist on moving Bama to #1, then Arkansas should be #2 and LSU #3, since Arkansas must be moved up from #3 after winning at #1 LSU and finishing with the same record as LSU. But Bama knocking LSU out of the top 3 would be a great injustice since Bama got both Arkansas and LSU at home, earned the same 1-1 record, and also since LSU has the stronger resume and head to head win over Bama.
1. LSU
2. Bama
3. Arkansas
Scenario:
Alabama (11-1)
Arkansas (11-1)
LSU (11-1)
-All 3 teams would be 1-1 against the other 2.
Why Arkansas would deserve to be ranked in the top 2:
1. Arkansas would be on the third longest winning streak in the nation (8 games), third only to Houston (undefeated), and Georgia 9-2, will be on 10 game winning streak with win over Georgia Tech this weekend). Arkansas' winning streak would be capped off by winning @ #1 LSU who has not been beaten yet this season.
-LSU would have lost the last game of the regular season to Arkansas.
-Bama would be on a 3 game winning streak with a win at Auburn.
-OSU lost their most recent game to unranked Iowa State and has a bye this week before playing their last game against OU.
-Virginia Tech would be on a 7 game winning streak if they beat Virginia this weekend.
2. Arkansas would be the only team out of Bama-Ark-LSU to have had to play @ both of the other teams' stadiums, earning the same record as the other two teams who each got at least one home game in this 3-team series, and who each would have lost a home game in the series. Arkansas has not lost a home game this season.
-LSU beat Bama @ Bama, and will have lost to Arkansas at home.
-Bama beat Arkansas at home, and lost to LSU at home.
3. Arkansas would be the only team out of Bama-Ark-LSU to have played and beat one of the two ranked teams from the SEC East (#12 South Carolina). (Arkansas' other two opponents from the SEC East were Vanderbilt and Tennessee).
-LSU played Kentucky, Florida, and Tennessee.
-Bama played Vanderbilt, Florida, Tennessee.
4. Alabama's out-of-conference win at #19 Penn State (9-2) is not significantly better than Arkansas' win over Texas A&M at a neutral site. Therefore, Alabama's OOC "advantage" should be given little weight when compared to the 3 reasons above for why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2.
-Penn State has faced 2 ranked teams and lost to both (#2 Bama, #21 Nebraska).
-A&M has faced 5 ranked opponents, going 1-4 against those five (win over #17 Baylor, losses to #9 OU, #4 Ok St, #3 Arkansas, #11 Kansas State). A&M's 5th loss came to Missouri (6-5).
-For their final games, Penn State is a 18.5 point underdog to #15 Wisconsin, and A&M is a 7.5 point favorite over #25 Texas.
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Conclusion:
Based on the 4 reasons listed and explain above, Arkansas would clearly deserve to be ranked as one of the top 2 teams in the nation, if not the #1 team in the nation.
Since this is the case, it should be up for the voters to decide whether Bama or LSU should drop to 3. Since LSU won @ Bama 3 weeks ago, and since LSU has a stronger resume than Bama, the final rankings should be one of the two:
1. Arkansas
2. LSU
3. Bama
or
1. LSU
2. Arkansas
3. Bama
If the voters insist on moving Bama to #1, then Arkansas should be #2 and LSU #3, since Arkansas must be moved up from #3 after winning at #1 LSU and finishing with the same record as LSU. But Bama knocking LSU out of the top 3 would be a great injustice since Bama got both Arkansas and LSU at home, earned the same 1-1 record, and also since LSU has the stronger resume and head to head win over Bama.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 10:37 pm
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:15 pm to Jon Ham
Tl:dr
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:16 pm to Jon Ham
Why Arkansas should just stfu.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:16 pm to memphisplaya
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:16 pm to Jon Ham
The computers hate y'all, so it wouldn't necessarily be up to the voters
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:17 pm to Jon Ham
I didnt read
BUT
I believe your thread title. FWIW i think the week bama lost and arky won and still dropped a spot Arky got screwed.
BUT
I believe your thread title. FWIW i think the week bama lost and arky won and still dropped a spot Arky got screwed.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:17 pm to Jon Ham
Thanks Capstone
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:18 pm to Jon Ham
I agree, Brad Edwards is retarded.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:18 pm to MoreOrLes
It's also a lot of unnecessary typing. I mean if LSU beats the Packers, they should get the Lombardi trophy. So what?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:19 pm to Jon Ham
quote:
Jon Ham
You've gone full retard lately, Jon. You are normally so much better than this.
quote:
Alabama's out-of-conference win at #19 Penn State (9-2) is not significantly better than Arkansas' win over Texas A&M at a neutral site.
So beating a Big 10 division leading Penn State on the road in front of 101K opposing fans, is not as big of a win as a victory as beating a team with a losing record on a neutral site? Come on, man.
It's as if you are under the impression you played a close game to Bama. You didn't. You got HANDLED by 24 points. You don't have the "we lost by 3 in OT to the #1 team" argument. You have the "we got humiliated by 24 to the #2 team" agrument. Not quite as powerful.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:19 pm to Jon Ham
quote:
Why Arkansas should not be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU
1. Vandy
2. Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:20 pm to NaturalBeam
I wouldn't say the computers hate Arkansas. With a win friday we should have the same computer average as bama.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:21 pm to Jon Ham
So if and when you finally beat ONE good team, then you guys are top 2 material?
Seriously, up until now, who have you guys beaten?
the only fan base more delusional then yours is Houston's...cause well..i live in Houston and hear their bullshite all day long.
Too bad Vandy had to fumble on your goal line and have it returned for a 14 pt turnaround.
Then we wouldnt have to wait until Saturday until all you delusional dumbass Pigs are completely absent from this board. It will be like crickets Saturday. I cant wait.
Seriously, up until now, who have you guys beaten?
the only fan base more delusional then yours is Houston's...cause well..i live in Houston and hear their bullshite all day long.
Too bad Vandy had to fumble on your goal line and have it returned for a 14 pt turnaround.
Then we wouldnt have to wait until Saturday until all you delusional dumbass Pigs are completely absent from this board. It will be like crickets Saturday. I cant wait.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:22 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:23 pm to Jon Ham
I think Arkansas' impressive non-conference wins over New Mexico, Missouri State, Troy, and Texas A&M far outweigh LSU's wins over Pac 12 champion Oregon and Big East champion West Virginia.
Arkansas #1
Everybody Else
Arkansas #1
Everybody Else
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:24 pm to beaverfever
A little delusional are we 
man i have got to leave this freaking state.... 
man i have got to leave this freaking state.... 
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:24 pm to Jon Ham
Agreed. If Arky wins at LSU, both Arky and LSU should be ranked as the top 2 SEC teams.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:24 pm to bamasgot13
If a&m beats Texas this week (likely) and Penn st loses to wiscy (highly likely), a&m should have a higher computer rating pretting much across the board.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:25 pm to bamasgot13
quote:
So beating a Big 10 division leading Penn State on the road in front of 101K opposing fans, is not as big of a win as a victory as beating a team with a losing record on a neutral site? Come on, man.
I stated that Bama has an advantage in OOC wins. My point was that this advantage is minimal, which it is, and it shouldn't outweigh the first 3 reasons why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2.
quote:
It's as if you are under the impression you played a close game to Bama. You didn't. You got HANDLED by 24 points.
That did happen. Arkansas lost to Bama.
What also happened:
-Bama lost to LSU
-In this hypothetical, Arkansas beats LSU.
-Bama got both games at home, Arky got both on the road.
-Arkansas finished the season on a 8 game winning streak with win @ #1, Bama finishes on a 3 game winning streak.
-Bama and Arkansas are both 11-1.
-Arkansas faced one of the two ranked teams from the East and beat them, Bama didn't.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:25 pm to Jon Ham
Make .... It.... All....stop... I can't wait for Friday!
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