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re: Why are steroids illegal?

Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:00 am to
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Why are steroids illegal?


Tell me you've never seen the SNL steroid Olympics without telling me you've never seen the SNL steroid Olympics.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9963 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:06 pm to
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No, illegal = against the law. Can't take it even with a prescription. LSD is illegal. Cocaine is Illegal. Steroids and opiates are legal, they just require a prescription. Just like insulin.


Cocaine is available in multiple prescriptions.

You can have LSD for research.

So it's not as cut and dry as you're saying. Most people consider a scheduled drug to be an illegal drug, because it's illegal to possess without special conditions.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1484 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Imagine if all the slim kids could become ripped enough so that their muscle matched their mouths.



They'd still be bitches at heart
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4246 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:15 pm to
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Cocaine is available in multiple prescriptions.


Not really. There are some prescribed medicines that will cause you to test positive for cocaine. There is one form of cocaine (cocaine hydrochloride) used as a topical anesthetic, but there is no prescribed use for ingested cocaine, or any form of cocaine outside of cocaine hydrochloride. Any form of cocaine that is not formulated as a topical solution is in fact illegal in all circumstances, prescription or not.

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You can have LSD for research.


I honestly don't know much about how research on illegal drugs is regulated. Doesn't change the fact the drug is illegal though, at least no to my knowledge.

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So it's not as cut and dry as you're saying. Most people consider a scheduled drug to be an illegal drug, because it's illegal to possess without special conditions.


That's a really wide categorization. Schedule 1 drugs are definitely illegal. LSD. Ecstacy. Heroin.

Schedule 2? Those are iffy. Cocaine is illegal. It's only schedule 2 because of topical use. But adderall and ritalin? Those are prescription drugs that most people don't think of as being illegal even though they have the same schedule as narcotics.

Schedule 3? No, it takes a real stretch to consider those sorts of prescription drugs illegal. That's where steroids and painkillers with a tiny amount of codeine fit. The closest thing to a "street drug" in this schedule is probably Ketamine (special K). And to be honest Ketamine is only a schedule 3 because it gives you a high/hallucinations. It's not particularly addictive or even all that damaging to use which is why it's not a higher schedule. If it didn't give you a buzz it would be a schedule 4.

Beyond that there's no real question. You're talking about things like Valium, Xanax and cough syrups.

So no, being scheduled really isn't enough to consider something illegal. Schedule 1 definitely is though. Some schedule 2's as well. Nothing schedule 3 or lower.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2204 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:20 pm to
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So no, being scheduled really isn't enough to consider something illegal.


Worth adding this varies from state to state. Great example of this is sudafed. You can get sudafed in one state where it's OTC, and bring to a state where it's schedule 2, and it's illegal for you to have without a prescription.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:26 pm to
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wish they were legal just to see what professional sports morphs into.


NFL: *no change*
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9963 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Not really.


No, really. You can purchase cocaine meant to be insufflated.

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I honestly don't know much about how research on illegal drugs is regulated.


Ok. Well hopefully I just helped you?

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Schedule 2? Those are iffy. Cocaine is illegal. It's only schedule 2 because of topical use. But adderall and ritalin? Those are prescription drugs that most people don't think of as being illegal even though they have the same schedule as narcotics.


They're all illegal if you don't have an exception.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4246 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:52 pm to
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They're all illegal if you don't have an exception.


As is insulin. Nearly every medicine ever made requires a prescription.

Another way to think of it is that they're completely legal when you have a prescription. Steroids are in that category. Heroin is not.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1302 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:16 pm to
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We saw what they did to MLB. No thanks.


Made it interesting?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9963 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:17 pm to
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Steroids are in that category. Heroin is not.


Illegal unless you have an exception? Agreed! Or, for shorthand, "illegal drugs"

Fun fact: you can actually get heroin in the hospital. That would be an exception.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 5:18 pm
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1121 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:32 pm to
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The same reason a lot of drugs are illegal. They hurt the user. They can kill the user. They increase the odds that the user will hurt others.. The term roid rage exists for a reason.

Pretty much all this thread needs to be.
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
170 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:37 pm to
Testosterone is a steroid, but it can be legally prescribed. It’s a schedule drug, which puts it in the same category as opioids and benzodiazepines. It’s not a narcotic obviously, but I guess it didn’t need a category all its own. Used for sports, whether legally prescribed or illegally gotten, is unethical.
Posted by Wolf Shirt
the boardwalk
Member since Sep 2008
10565 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:36 am to
Long term they wilk destroy your body
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4246 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:39 am to
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Illegal unless you have an exception? Agreed! Or, for shorthand, "illegal drugs"


This is a really stupid viewpoint. I'm not sure why you're hammering it.

I've needed a prescription for insulin since I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when I was 10.

Your viewpoint is that I've been an illegal drug user since then.

My viewpoint is that I'm taking a legal medicine with a prescription.

I frankly think your viewpoint is idiotic. Prescription drugs aren't illegal drugs. That's just dumb.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9963 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:46 am to
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This is a really stupid viewpoint. I'm not sure why you're hammering it.


Because when people say a drug is "illegal" there are almost always exemptions. We know that an "illegal" drug is one that is federally scheduled

If your argument is that no drug is illegal that would at least be a consistent point, but it seems you weren't aware a lot of drugs you consider to be "legal" are also available via prescription and most people would call them "illegal drugs"

If someone says cocaine is an illegal drug you wouldn't bat an eye, but it's also available via prescription. In other words, you know exactly what is meant by "illegal drug"
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:49 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31179 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:38 am to
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Chris Benoit from the WWE story is why. Go read about it. Roid rage is real





no it isnt read the medical studies

Benoit was on all kinds of drugs, shite loads...but yea its the steroids...come on man, be smarter
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31179 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:45 am to
for the answer why its illegal...because our esteemed president and senator hatch in the early 90s freaked the frick out after ben johnson wiped the floor with the field and then tested positive

they were not banned to protect the user and in fact the FDA and medical associations fought against them being scheduled as they did not meet the criteria

but they were made illegal because Biden and Hatch in all their wisdom, decided it would clean up sports....it didnt and actually made things more underground to where you are always fighting new drugs coming out that can by pass testing.

and roid rage isnt real...go read the medical literature. stop just repeating myths.

now many steroids where never approved for human use and have limited trials, atleast in this country. example tren was produced in france as human grade but never produced in the USA. Equipose is considered a veterinarian drug in the USA and mexico but was produced as a human grade product in other countries

in the end steroids are illegal not to protect the end user...how fricking naïve do you have to be to believe that. If that was the case we wouldnt allow many of the plastic surgeries we do. It was made illegal because as usual the government felt like they must "do something" even if its not the right thing. and because the government only knows one thing....grandstanding to get reelected.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1726 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:51 am to
I feel like I grew up in the peak era of anabolic steroid abuse. The Wall was still up and all those crappy Soviet Satellite countries were doping the hell out of their women to get an edge in the Olympics. That East German shot-putter Heidi Kreiger literally turned into a man and went ahead and got a sex change due her system irreparably changing.

I found this old picture of the East German women's 4x100 team. Not the most feminine lot.

Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3327 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:34 pm to
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If that were the reason, then alcohol would also be illegal. They are illegal because they can be easily synthesized in a homemade lab and made untaxable. Uncle Sam wants his money.

You think steroids are easily made at home but alcohol isn’t?
Posted by ihateidiots18
Member since Dec 2020
168 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:52 pm to
Most of you are all wrong. I’m on TRT & have taken steroids in my 28 years. Most of what’s been said is just false.

Takes one to know one. If you’re a hot head naturally, juice just amplifies it. Technically it raises your blood pressure, which causes you to snap easier.

Tren, anadrol, etc. Are all very potent. There’s diff levels to steroids like most things. There aren’t all equal. Some more potent/deadly than others.

If you ever take anything, I’d suggest going to your male doctor for blood work. That will guide you & help you stay healthy-ish while taking gear. I go every 3 months to make sure my levels are where they neeed to be & no issues.

To each their own.
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