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re: Why are some Alabama fans behaving like massive hypocrites?

Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:19 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58022 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:19 am to
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Kid killed himself, you pussy.


Well sure. He also shares in the responsibility, but I have no idea how much those things shake typically because you'd never catch me up there doing anything. I have no way of knowing how different that day might have felt to someone who does that regularly.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58022 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:20 am to
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YOU are the one who brought up Kelly's name first, you fricking moron.


No I didn't. Are you unable to see the images in the OP?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58022 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:21 am to
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Link a reputable source indicating BK was the person who had the sole responsibility for alleged decision.



Why would I do that? I don't think he had sole responsibility and have said so multiple times in this thread. He still held responsibility though, and he himself admitted that. Why don't you believe him?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26101 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:29 am to
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Why would I do that? I don't think he had sole responsibility and have said so multiple times in this thread. He still held responsibility though, and he himself admitted that. Why don't you believe him?


And still not a single link or reputable source provided. Predictable.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
24458 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:37 am to
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And still not a single link or reputable source provided. Predictable.

I googled “Brian Kelly Notre Dame student death” and found all kinds of shite about it. It’s not hard at all.

Reputable sources included, even tweets by Declan Sullivan in the moments before he died.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61170 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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I'm only discussing it now because you claimed there was hypocrisy here. I'm simply pointing out that your premise makes no sense. 


Bammers say Brandon Miller is innocent until proven guilty, they say no charges mean no crime was committed.

They also say Brian Kelly killed a kid despite him never even being implicated in any wrongdoing.

If you can't see the hypocrisy there then you've brainwashed yourself.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61170 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:39 am to
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I googled “Brian Kelly Notre Dame student death” and found all kinds of shite about it. It’s not hard at all.


Same thing is true if you Google "Brandon Miller shooting."


Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38628 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:40 am to
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even tweets by Declan Sullivan in the moments before he died.


It's pretty damning that he wrote multiple tweets about how unsafe he felt raising that lift up, but he did it anyway.

His family received good legal advice to not sue.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26101 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:02 am to
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I googled “Brian Kelly Notre Dame student death” and found all kinds of shite about it. It’s not hard at all. Reputable sources included, even tweets by Declan Sullivan in the moments before he died.


Still not a single link provided.

Why are you Gumps so afraid to show the class your work?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61170 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:37 am to
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Why are you Gumps so afraid to show the class your work?


Because it reveals that they did the same things they've been crying about for weeks now.

What a shame.


This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:39 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:41 am to
This must be the daily sidewalker melting about Bama thread. Passive aggressively of course.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58022 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:41 am to
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if there's no gun brought to the scene, is there a murder? come on now.


If the boyfriend doesn't pull up on the scene AFTER Brandon Miller, is there a murder?

Does he deserve charges too? After all, he was far more involved than Miller was.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58022 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:42 am to
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Still not a single link provided.

Why are you Gumps so afraid to show the class your work?


This is a really weird melt. What is being said here about Brian Kelly isn't disputable, and there are no reputable sources that claim Brandon Miller is guilty of anything related to the shooting.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19834 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:42 am to
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if there's no gun brought to the scene, is there a murder? come on now.

The other involved party was still armed, so it's definitely not 100% no.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
24458 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:46 am to
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I googled “Brian Kelly Notre Dame student death” and found all kinds of shite about it. It’s not hard at all.

quote:

Same thing is true if you Google "Brandon Miller shooting."

So you’re saying that both Kelly and Miller caused a death.

Got it. Thanks for finally coming around.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:52 am to
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Declan Sullivan was entrusted to our care, and we failed to keep him safe. We at Notre Dame - and ultimately I, as President - are responsible


LINK

The President took responsibility, I don't know if Kelly ever did.

But considering Kelly was in charge of the practice, where it was held, and safety staff he would be ultimately responsible.

quote:

Kelly said that he decided the Irish could have a productive and safe practice on their outdoor practice fields last Wednesday, despite the wind. The National Weather Service said the breeze was gusting up to 51 mph at the time the tower that 20-year Declan Sullivan was in toppled to the ground.

Notre Dame had systems in place that deal with safety issues at practice but those systems failed and are being evaluated, Kelly said. Conditions including the heat index, lightning in the area and -- obviously -- wind, play into the decision whether to hold practice outside, he said.

"You have to be able to look at the weather conditions and find out whether you believe it's going to be a productive day, first. We believed it to be productive, it was productive, obviously up until the tragedy," Kelly said, speaking to reporters after Notre Dame's 28-27 loss to Tulsa.

"Practice must be safe," he added.




LINK



Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:53 am to
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The President took responsibility, I don't know if Kelly ever did.


Doubtful.

When one of his players raped a girl who later killed herself, he was cracking jokes with reporters.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:54 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21286 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:54 am to
The thing about hypocrisy posts is the person doing it is always also being hypocritical. The implication being you think Miller is responsible but Kelly is not responsible
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:55 am to
Cue sidewalk post saying he's never said that and certainly never implied it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61170 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:14 pm to
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The thing about hypocrisy posts is the person doing it is always also being hypocritical. The implication being you think Miller is responsible but Kelly is not responsible


Why are you lying?


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