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re: Who is the better OC? Ensminger or K. Briles?

Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:40 am to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71452 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:40 am to
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LSU is a lot better now than it was years ago


I never said they weren't

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Your team is n't going to start beating others like it is a powerhouse school! Get use to it.


I'm used to 2 wins per season, ill be happy, happy, happy, when we win 3

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You got a long way to go to see if your school will ever get to start winning again!


We both have new coaches. Good luck
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:46 am to
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LSU is a lot better now than it was years ago


I never said they weren't

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Your team is n't going to start beating others like it is a powerhouse school! Get use to it.


I'm used to 2 wins per season, ill be happy, happy, happy, when we win 3

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You got a long way to go to see if your school will ever get to start winning again!


We both have new coaches. Good luck


Missouri didn't fired Odom to get a new coach to go 6-6! Hired a new coach that can recruit better and win games they should each time and I believe Missouri will go 8-4 this season.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12953 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:07 am to
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Anyone with a brain can see what Burrow did with and without Brady.


2018 Burrow was a work in progress. He played great at the end, especially against TAMU and UCF. He had never started prior to arriving at LSU and had little time to learn and establish greatness. Also, LSU relied heavily on Cole Tracy for the automatic 3 pts. They went into "safe mode" many times and settled. Ed was comfortable taking the 3. However, he realized that he needed more juice to get to the playoffs and to beat Alabama. If you beat them, you stand a good chance to beat the rest. He sought help and they landed on Joe Brady.

Ed had a chance to sit on 3rd and 17 at Texas. He asked Emsminger what they should do, Ensminger wanted to keep throwing. Ed allowed it. In the past, he may have gone conservative like Miles. They knew what they had in 2019 Burrow. They took the shot. It wasn't all Brady.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 7:11 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:11 am to
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No I think Every QB on the roster looked like shut in the spring and that’s why a guy who didn’t know his teammates names was still a better option. 


That speaks more to the quarterbacks we had instead of the offense.

Those guys havent done great at the other places they've went either.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66548 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:35 am to
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That speaks more to the quarterbacks we had instead of the offense.


Occurs razor

Burrow looked bad, Brennan looked bad in the Speing, McMillan looked bad in the spring and went on the be pretty decent at Tulane.

But yeah it wasn’t the offense.

As much as people like to pretend inexperience is why the offense was so bad, how can you justify putting Burrow under center as much as we did early in the season?

So he doesn’t know the offense and we are making him take snaps under center for the first time since middle school?

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:48 am to
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Burrow looked bad


When did Burrow look bad?

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McMillan looked bad in the spring and went on the be pretty decent at Tulane. 


First year at Tulane after the spring where you say he looked bad: 51% completion rate, 1304 yards, 10 touchdowns, 4 interceptions.

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So he doesn’t know the offense and we are making him take snaps under center for the first time since middle school? 


I don't know, perhaps Ensminger was trying to figure out what he had. I've read that he wanted to be more of a running team in 2018 because he didnt feel the receivers were good/experienced enough to throw the ball around a whole lot.

Either way, they started operating a lot more from the shotgun late in year.

You should go back to Tiger Rant with the rest of the Negatigers.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:55 am to
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Sorry for the incorrect fact baw


Here’s a fact for you. Arkansas hasn’t won an SEC game in over two years. The Hogs have been a shite stain for almost a decade.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12179 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:02 am to
Everyone acts like Brady was the offense. Yes he helped put in new schemes, but I have a high suspicion that the reason LSU was so successful was someone that won the heisman, Maxwell, Walter camp, Johnny unites, Davey O’Brien, Manning, Lombardi, AP player of the year, and Sporting News player of the year. Maybe I’m wrong lol
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71452 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:05 am to
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Here’s a fact for you. Arkansas hasn’t won an SEC game in over two years. The Hogs have been a shite stain for almost a decade.


You feel better? Funny LSU has been shut out by that shite stain program this last decade. You sir are an idiot.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66548 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:32 am to
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When did Burrow look bad?


He threw 16 TDS in a season and went an entire month without throwing a TDs.

He threw 7 TDS in the first 10 games of the season.

That’s not good. Especially now that we’re aware of what he is capable of.

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First year at Tulane after the spring where you say he looked bad: 51% completion rate, 1304 yards, 10 touchdowns, 4 interceptions.


He wasn’t even completing half his passes in the spring. On a team he had been on for 3 full years and a spring.

He had 10 tds in 150 passes. Joe has 16 in 379 passes.

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I don't know, perhaps Ensminger was trying to figure out what he had. I've read that he wanted to be more of a running team in 2018 because he didnt feel the receivers were good/experienced enough to throw the ball around a whole lot.


Clearly that worked out. We just had one of the worst offenses in the country though mid November.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:42 am to
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He had 10 tds in 150 passes. Joe has 16 in 379 passes. 


And McMillan had 1200 yards to Joe's nearly 3,000.

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We just had one of the worst offenses in the country though mid November. 


No doubt they were mediocre but you're exaggerating a bit.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66548 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:00 am to
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And McMillan had 1200 yards to Joe's nearly 3,000.


He threw 220 less passes so that makes a lot of sense.

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No doubt they were mediocre but you're exaggerating a bit.


Um no I am Not.

We had one of the statistically worst offenses in the country through the Arkansas Game.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:16 am to
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Um no I am Not. 

We had one of the statistically worst offenses in the country through the Arkansas Game. 



Link?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66548 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:11 am to
Yeah sorry I dont Have a link to mid November national stats, but we scored 29 TDS in 10 games.

That’s not good.

Heading into the Rice game we were in low 60s in scoring and even lower in total offense

We scored 6 TD in October.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:01 pm to
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Heading into the Rice game we were in low 60s in scoring 


Thats mediocre as I said and not "one of the worst offenses in the country" as you said.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66548 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Thats mediocre as I said and not "one of the worst offenses in the country" as you said.


We were 76th in the country in TDs vs Conference opponents including 5 OT TDs.

In regulation we scored 21 TDS in conference play in 2018. And one of those was on defense. That would put us in the 100s. Our offense was awful and the stats are stuffed with OTs and Terrible shitty defenses.

And I’ll say this: I dont Think Ensminger is going to fall on his face. He’s a smart guy, he’s just old and was asked to make an offense from scratch with 0 experience in that type of offense. He isn’t being asked to do that this year.


This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51827 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:09 pm to
Ensminger sucks arse. I still cringe at the Nallsminger experiment at AU.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:20 pm to
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And I’ll say this: I dont Think Ensminger is going to fall on his face. He’s a smart guy, he’s just old and was asked to make an offense from scratch with 0 experience in that type of offense. He isn’t being asked to do that this year. 


I agree.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52675 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:21 pm to
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Ensminger sucks arse. I still cringe at the Nallsminger experiment at AU.


Not sure why Ensminger gets the blame for a year in which he was hired as the quarterbacks coach and shite didnt work out.

Its like he was in control of the whole situation.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:16 pm to
Better question who is won a national championship Briles or Ensminger or who's offense set NCAA records.

But if it makes you sleep better at night keep telling yourself it was all Brady
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