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re: Who are the Blue Blood football programs?

Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:40 am to
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Alabama Michigan Nebraska Notre Dame Ohio State Oklahoma Texas USC


UGA, Florida, LSU all have more NCs in the last 50 years than every blueblood except Bama.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2185 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:41 am to
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Screaming about recent national championships just shows you don’t know what the phrase means.

LSU was not at the table when the badges were given out, but you’ve done well lately and we’re proud of you.


This is part of the problem with the term. The origin of the term is European, but was really used by formerly wealthy Northeastern U.S. families who found themselves poorer and less capable than a new breed of entrepreneur.

They couldn't outcompete these new folks so they just gated up by social registries and sniffed at people who weren't successful a century ago. No one cared and those families continued to dwindle into insignificance.

Same dynamic plays out in college football. Any program that is arguing the Darrel Royal days ain't worth much to anyone.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3773 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:52 am to
really funny methodology. your friend kyle is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
2180 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:53 am to
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That chart has nebraska as a blue blood. I would argue that all of their blue blood, bled out 25 years ago. They've got Runza juice coursing through their veins maybe, but not any blue blood.



It takes a while to get in as a blue blood. Likewise, it takes a while to get out.
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
5212 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:54 am to
5th rate program?
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3773 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:58 am to
a lot of funny stuff on there but the weighting of the nfl stuff like pro bowls and hall of famers and all pros is particularly nonsensical. counting the same thing multiple ways and weighting as much as the national championship column each time? really special stuff.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8317 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:06 pm to
Take away the segregation era and Texas sure as frick isn't a blue blood. One national title in the last 50-something years.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Which brings me back to Texas. They won titles in '63 & '69. The '70 title was a UPI co-championship in a season where they played 2 teams with winning records.



There's really no reason Texas should've ever been included in the blue blood conversation but especially now. I feel like people just threw out 8 names and we just stuck with it. I'd even put Florida over Texas.

It just seems like there was something special about the 60s and 70s and as long as you won at least two championships in that time period, you're in the club.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6711 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Alabama
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Texas
USC

These are the names atop nearly every metric relating to program success

Penn St is ahead of Nebraska now in both wins and win %.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3773 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:31 pm to
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There's really no reason Texas should've ever been included in the blue blood conversation but especially now.

the reason is that a texas fanboy who isn't good at math made the graphic.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6711 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Take away the segregation era


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Georgia Fan

Are you sure you wanna do that?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34487 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Flame away


Nah, you're just sharing someone else's graphic.

But man, USC and especially Notre Dame leaning HEAVILY on years gone by.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:02 pm to
Who cares. I will take LSU's past two decades over all those bluebloods except maybe Alabama. I would like for LSU to have all those saban natties, not gumps.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20602 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:02 pm to
In my humble opinion, Bama, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Notre Dame are the 5 true "blue bloods" to me in that order. USC, Texas, and Nebraska are the next 3 but I think there's enough of a dividing line between the first 5 and the next 3 to have them in separate "classes" if you will.

My reasoning is some calculations I did a couple of weeks ago. I used the final AP Poll of every year and based on those results (not preseason or week to week polls, only the final ones that take into account the entire season that was played), the gap between #1 Bama and #5 Notre Dame was 122 points. The gap between #5 Notre Dame and #6 USC was 202 points. When the gap between #5 and #6 is nearly double the gap between #1 and #5, that's an extremely significant dropoff and any statistician worth their salt is going to put a cutoff there.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
6597 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:08 pm to
Most of the Big XII played some type of role in the nub downfall.

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so OU knocking them out in Red October in 2000


I didn't realize they had paperclips and nubs on that submarine.
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1354 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:10 pm to
You would "maybe" take Alabama over LSU over the last two decades?
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:13 pm to
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TeLeFaWx


My favorite aggies are the ones without any self-awareness










Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:19 pm to
Who's alter are you?
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3911 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:22 pm to
WHO CARES? The only time anyone even brings up the ridiculous blue blood thing is when their program is struggling and can't when anything in the present. Honest to God, I wouldn't even care if UGA is at the top of the list...it's THAT stupid.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3693 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:22 pm to
What an interesting topic. I’ve always wanted to have a discussion about this.
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