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re: Which program is a better historically Auburn or Tennessee
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:53 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:53 pm to Mithridates6
Hillbillies easily...
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:01 pm to bamawriter
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the almost 50 years since the sport became fully integrated, Auburn has been the better program and it isn't terribly close.
Certainly in the new century but it was pretty much a draw in the 70's (draw),80's (AU) and 90's (UT)
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:37 am to Mithridates6
Sorry Auburn has never had two seasons in a row with 10 wins.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:38 am to Evolved Simian
He's just a millenial, the young kids today are called gen z.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 6:29 am to Capstone2017
Tennessee had the most total wins from like 1927 to 2007 in the entire country. You tell me.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:09 am to BradC
vols and it's not close all allbarn will ever be is an alabama wanna be, sorry but it's true.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:14 am to walley tux
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:37 am to RollTide1987
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1967 - This is worse than Alabama's 1941 title claim. Tennessee finished the season with two losses while USC swept every single legitimate national championship bestower (AP, Coaches, FWAA, and NFF just to name a few). Why is it worse? Because the AP/Coaches had been firmly established by this year. At least in 1941 the AP was in its infancy and the Coaches Poll had yet to exist.
False. Unlike 1941 Alabama, this Tennessee team won the SEC. The polls in 1967 actually crowned their champ in late Nov before the final regular season was finished. Tennessee finished 9-1 and was ranked 2nd in the final AP and UPI polls. Alabama was 20th in the final AP poll. The Vols' only loss was the season opener at UCLA, 20-16 who was ranked #1 late in the year. Southern Cal won 21-20 and jumped from #4 to #1 over #2 Tennessee.
No "title" is as bad as Alabama's 1941 one.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:54 am to BradC
We lost the last time we played.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:12 am to BradC
Both good programs over the years, but my initial thought was & is TN.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:43 am to RollTide1987
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1938 - TCU was the AP national champion that year. Tennessee finished the season undefeated but was not awarded a national title by THE major selector of the time.
UT finished 11-0, outscored their opponents 293-16, and ended Oklahoma's 14 game win streak. Go back and look at UT vs TCU's opponents and outcome (the majority of polls had UT ahead of TCU, but the AP didn't)
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1940 - Minnesota won the AP national title and finished the season undefeated and untied. Tennessee had one loss.
Minnesota had a harder schedule...UT's loss was in the bowl game...National Champions were decided before bowl games in those days, but Minnesota should get the nod because of their schedule (even though they played 3 fewer games)
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1950 - Oklahoma won the AP and Coaches poll national championship this year, before losing the Sugar Bowl to Bear Bryant's Kentucky team. Tennessee also had one loss, however.
Oklahoma lost to the Kentucky team that Tennessee beat. Oklahoma should still get the nod for finishing the regular season undefeated.
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1967 - This is worse than Alabama's 1941 title claim. Tennessee finished the season with two losses while USC swept every single legitimate national championship bestower (AP, Coaches, FWAA, and NFF just to name a few). Why is it worse? Because the AP/Coaches had been firmly established by this year. At least in 1941 the AP was in its infancy and the Coaches Poll had yet to exist.
Again...NCs were awarded prior to bowls...UT was 9-1 prior to the bowl game. Still, USC and Oklahoma both probably had a better claim than UT. That being said, UT did win the SEC that year...1941 Bama finished 3rd in the conference and was shut out by both Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. So...Bama finished behind Mississippi State in the conference and lost to them...so why would they have a claim? Minnesota, on the other hand, finished the season undefeated, winning the Big 10. So UT's claim is flawed, but nothing like Bama's '41 claim.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 pm to Serraneaux
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Tennessee had the most total wins from like 1927 to 2007 in the entire country. You tell me.
Surely they had the most conference and national titles during that span, right?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:23 pm to Capstone2017
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Sorry Auburn has never had two seasons in a row with 10 wins.
Largely because year in and year out we play a statistically more difficult schedule than the rest of the SEC. If you take our 8.5 win average based on our historical schedule and simply substitute MSU for UF back in the day or USCe for uga, etc...then we are the same basic program with 1 more win a year on average than now. But then we wouldn't be able to trumpet the difficulty of our schedule year in and year out. We would be able to celebrate the 10 win thing more often though...wonder which matters more in the seasons where rings come into play.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:34 pm to Tigerman97
Tennessee has a better win percentage, more national titles, more wins, more conference championships, pretty much every stat. You can blame your your schedule all you want, but Auburn has still never had back to back 10+ win seasons.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:47 pm to Capstone2017
Not since the 88-89 seasons.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:48 pm to tiger81
Could you be more specific?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:58 am to dchog
Ah thank you I forgot about those two years.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:11 pm to Capstone2017
Tennessee has a significant lead in SRS over Auburn as well despite easier SOS
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:13 pm to BradC
Tenner Hill Hicks and it’s not even close.
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