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Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:26 am to FourThreeForty
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His only national championship
First, they don't just hand them out for longevity. There is a reason so few coaches ever win one. It takes as much luck as it does overall talent and coaching.
Second, I put him as the Bobby Cox of CFB or, at least, the SEC. Tremendous success season after season, but the NCs at UF and the SeC titles at USCe seem at least 1 or 2 short given the amount of opportunities his teams created to compete for them.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:29 am to Che Boludo
I will say it again...
only went back to his early years at Florida but will finish and update.
His second year he beat Alabama and gave them their only loss 35-0! Same year he beat what would have been a 9-2 UGA 45-13. He beat a Fla State 11-1 at the time 14-9.
1993: he gave Tennessee one of its only 2 losses, beat the pants off LSU who would have had 2 losses 61-14, Beat Bama in Sec Championship game 28-13 and beat an undefeated WV team in the bowl game 41-7.
Now, I looked ahead and saw he defeated undefeated Alabama 24-23 in 1994 Sec Championship.
1995 went undefeated but lost a natty to Nebraska, the greatest rushing team in college history.
And Nick Saban nor Clemson was going to beat Nebraska that year. Nobody could and Spurrier had to play them for that natty.
only went back to his early years at Florida but will finish and update.
His second year he beat Alabama and gave them their only loss 35-0! Same year he beat what would have been a 9-2 UGA 45-13. He beat a Fla State 11-1 at the time 14-9.
1993: he gave Tennessee one of its only 2 losses, beat the pants off LSU who would have had 2 losses 61-14, Beat Bama in Sec Championship game 28-13 and beat an undefeated WV team in the bowl game 41-7.
Now, I looked ahead and saw he defeated undefeated Alabama 24-23 in 1994 Sec Championship.
1995 went undefeated but lost a natty to Nebraska, the greatest rushing team in college history.
And Nick Saban nor Clemson was going to beat Nebraska that year. Nobody could and Spurrier had to play them for that natty.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:31 am to MullenBoys
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So the Alabama fan who stated Spurrier played a down SEC is mistaking.
All six of the so-called "Big Six" schools in the SEC won conference championships in the 1980s while five of the six won conference championships in the 2000s. Even as dominate as Alabama had been in the 2010s, four of the Big Six managed to win conference championships. Only three of the Big Six won conference championships in the 1990s. Auburn, Georgia, and LSU had all fallen from the heights they had enjoyed during the 1980s.
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:33 am to roadGator
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He didn’t like recruiting enough. If he did, oh boy...
He recruited very well at least in this snapshot from '93 to '97
Three top 5's in 5 of those years ??
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:36 am to RollTide1987
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All six of the so-called "Big Six" schools in the SEC won conference championships in the 1980s while five of the six won conference championships in the 2000s. Even as dominate as Alabama had been in the 2010s, four of the Big Six managed to win conference championships. Only three of the Big Six won conference championships in the 1990s. Auburn, Georgia, and LSU had all fallen from the heights they had enjoyed during the 1980s.
Spurrier didn’t Coach Florida in the 80’s and maybe the 90’s had more to do with Florida kicking the crap out of Sec teams.
And what does that have to do wirh Spurrier kicking the shite out of an undefeated Alabama team for the SEC title 35-0? And in 1994 your only loss?
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:48 am to MullenBoys
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Spurrier didn’t Coach Florida in the 80’s and mabe the 90’s had more to do with Florida kicking the crap out of Sec teams.
And what
Exactly.He dominated Bama,UT and UGA.
And if the humps really want to talk about a SEC coach dominating in a bad decade,look at the 70's.Perhaps one of the worst decades for SEC FB outside of Bama.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:54 am to FourThreeForty
quote:He was so good Bama fans are still melting about it.
His only national championship was a mulligan but people suck his dick like it’s a winning lottery ticket flavored lollipop.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:56 am to MullenBoys
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Spurrier didn’t Coach Florida in the 80’s and maybe the 90’s had more to do with Florida kicking the crap out of Sec teams.
You're correct. Spurrier didn't coach Florida in the 80s. That doesn't change the fact, however, that there was far more parity in the conference in the late-80s than there was in the early-90s. The vast majority of that had little to do with Spurrier's arrival and just about everything to do with piss poor coaching hires made by the various schools in the wake of departing coaches.
- LSU hired Mike Archer to replace a solid coach in Bill Arnsparger. Archer had a brilliant first season with Arnsparger's players before slowly turning LSU into a dumpster fire as the 80s ended and the 90s began. The hiring of Curley Hallman did nothing but poor gasoline onto that fire. They had a few solid seasons in the mid-90s with Gerry DiNardo before falling back into the pit of despair in 1998 and 1999.
- Georgia hired the laughable Ray Goff to replace the legendary Vince Dooley in 1989. Other than a couple of decent seasons in 1991 and 1992, Georgia wouldn't make any noise again until the late-90s.
- Auburn was hit by major NCAA sanctions in the early-90s which prevented Terry Bowden from taking full advantage of his talented rosters of 1993 and 1994. By the time Auburn could play in the post-season again, their program had been devastated by the limits on recruiting and they fell off a cliff. Auburn had four seasons of .500 or worse in the 90s. They have had just two seasons of .500 or worse in the 20 years since.
- Alabama was a dominant force in the SEC from 1991-1994 but suffered from NCAA sanctions imposed on them from 1995-1998. They were one of three SEC teams to win a conference/national title in the 1990s.
- Tennessee was Florida's only consistent competition in the SEC East during the 1990s.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:57 am to RD Dawg
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And if the humps really want to talk about a SEC coach dominating in a bad decade,look at the 70's.Perhaps one of the worst decades for SEC FB outside of Bama.
Two things (the SEC sucked in the 70s and 90s) can be true at the same time.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:03 am to redeye
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He dominated the SEC while it was down and then dominated the SEC East while it was down.
Was it down? Bama and Tennessee both won national championships in the 90's as did FSU and Miami which he had to contend with on a regular basis.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:08 am to RollTide1987
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Two things (the SEC sucked in the 70s and 90s) can be true at the same time.
What? The SEC had 3 teams win NC's in the 90's and another (AU '93) finished undefeated. The comparison isn't even close.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:08 am to RollTide1987
A good friend was a big $$$$$ supporter of Fla. athletics back then. He always said that while Spurrier was known for his wit & sarcasm, usually targeted at other coaches & at times, he was brutal in booster club meetings where there was no press. Said his special targets were always UT, UGA, and Fla. State. People would leave those meeting in tears from laffing so much. As an LSU fan, I will always love the fact that LSU hung 52 points on him in his last game, in Tiger Stadium.He quit the next day.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:16 am to GamecockUltimate
quote:But did he? Y'all had a few big seasons, and yet are already back to being the perennially mediocre shitbirds youve always been in less than a decade removed from him. Youve lost 6 of the last 7 to us. Congrats.
and the fact he single handedly changed the culture at SC .
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:20 am to RD Dawg
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The comparison isn't even close.
You're assuming I'm directly comparing the two. I am not. The SEC of the 1970s, as a whole, was obviously down and terrible. But as terrible as it was, three different programs managed to win conference championships (Alabama, Georgia, and LSU) - the same number of programs that won conference championships in the 1990s. In fact, if you count Kentucky's retroactive conference championship from 1977 (Mississippi State had to forfeit their win against Kentucky that year), that makes four teams that won conference titles in the 70s - compared to the three that won conference titles in the 90s.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:26 am to RollTide1987
It’s l so funny that Bama fans won’t read back and acknowledge Spurrier when he kicked your arse . And he did it in SEC champ games.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:28 am to MullenBoys
Top 5 in SEC for sure. His only really weakness was national titles. We also had the issues of Miami and FSu all being elite at the same time as well which limited each program in the 90s. If only one was, would have been absurd.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:29 am to RollTide1987
Kentuckys retroactive SEC championship was for '76.
Thanks to the Miss State chicanery, they vacated their 14-7 win over us, leaving us 5-1 in the SEC. I believe we tied Georgia or Florida that year for a share.
Kentucky would have been outright SEC champions in 77 as well, and by rights, are. We were on probation however, so it is what it is. 10-1, only loss was opener to Baylor.
Thanks to the Miss State chicanery, they vacated their 14-7 win over us, leaving us 5-1 in the SEC. I believe we tied Georgia or Florida that year for a share.
Kentucky would have been outright SEC champions in 77 as well, and by rights, are. We were on probation however, so it is what it is. 10-1, only loss was opener to Baylor.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:31 am to RD Dawg
What’s that have to do with his distaste of recruiting? That’s well known. You people just like to argue.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:35 am to RollTide1987
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You're assuming I'm directly comparing the two. I am not. The SEC of the 1970s, as a whole, was obviously down and terrible. But as terrible as it was, three different programs managed to win conference championships (Alabama, Georgia, and LSU) - the same number of programs that won conference championships in the 1990s. In fact, if you count Kentucky's retroactive conference championship from 1977 (Mississippi State had to forfeit their win against Kentucky that year), that makes four teams that won conference titles in the 70s - compared to the three that won conference titles in the 90s.
I want to look back on every Tide natty and see where the SEC was that year for every claimed title. Btw MSU won rhe Title in 1940 , beat ypu head to head 13 -0 ans didn’t lose a game. You lost to Ole Miss AND MSU. You claim that tiitle?
We won that title, i don’t give two shits what Ap or Tide says. We won that natty.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 10:38 am
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