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re: Where would you rank Steve Spurrier all time as a coach?

Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:40 am to
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You're assuming I'm directly comparing the two. I am not


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Two things (the SEC sucked in the 70s and 90s) can be true at the same time.



You aren't? Coulda fooled me

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But as terrible as it was, three different programs managed to win conference championships (Alabama, Georgia, and LSU


WGAS? There wasn't an SECCG back then and you only played 6 occasionally 7 conference games and Bama was the only team competing for NC's.
Also,there woulda been probably
4 different teams in the 90's had AU not been on probation.


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1977 (Mississippi State had to forfeit their win against Kentucky that year), that makes four teams that won conference titles in the 70s - compared to the three that won conference titles in the 90s.



Wait,I thought you weren't comparing decades? And why are even attempting to compare a conference champion who played 6 games and no SECCG to and 8 game conference schedule plus the conference title game plus a NC game?

Also are you forgetting the Spurrier also had to go through FSU and occasionally play Miami OOC?
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5441 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:42 am to
TrueToolShed
Missouri Fan
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
5205 posts



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Never could get the east division. Pinkel took it away 2 times from him!
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:43 am to
He's a great coach and that's coming from a Mizzou fan.

Anyone that knows football knows that what he did at South Carolina is an achievement more than what he did at Florida. Especially at his age.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64985 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:43 am to
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Also are you forgetting the Spurrier also had to go through FSU and occasionally play Miami OOC?


Hence why I said, as good as Florida was in the 90s they were still only the third best program in the state of Florida.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:46 am to
I love Mizzou but just like all fanbases, we get our delusional ones just as much as everyone else.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:51 am to
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What’s that have to do with his distaste of recruiting? That’s well known. You people just like to argue.


This was the quote I responded to
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quote]He didn’t like recruiting enough. If he did, oh boy


It wasn't wether he liked recruiting or not.It was the fact that he recruited very well. The "Oh Boy" implication is that he really woulda killed it had he recruited better...when he was already recruiting at a high level.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139828 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:54 am to
That wasn’t the implication. Your love of arguing led you to changing my words.

He didn’t like recruiting. If he did he would have been even better at it. Think Bobby Bowden. He loved recruiting when compared to Spurrier.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:00 am to
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Hence why I said, as good as Florida was in the 90s they were still only the third best program in the state of Florida


Miami wasn't better than Florida in the 90's and FSU comes no where close to the '90's success had they played in the SEC instead of the very bad ACC.

It was the reason FSU turned down the SEC invite and Bobby Bowden admitted it.

Geez,WTH is it with the Humps and admitting Spurriers success
and dominance over your program ?

Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2540 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:02 am to
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I believe we tied Georgia or Florida that year for a share.


It was Georgia.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:10 am to
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That wasn’t the implication


It wasn't? What did it mean then?

If he did he would have been even better at it.

He finished top 5 multiple years.Are you saying he woulda been better the Bowden? Next the Saban,Bowden was probably the best of all time.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64985 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:12 am to
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FSU comes no where close to the '90's success had they played in the SEC instead of the very bad ACC.



And we're done.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:12 am to
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Your love of arguing led you to changing my words


What? I changed your words?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139828 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:24 am to
You made up an implication rather
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139828 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:26 am to
If he didn’t have a distaste for recruiting would he have likely done at least a bit better?

Jeebus. You just love to argue for no good reason.
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
756 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:39 am to
FSU in the 90s was ridiculously stacked. As Spurrier put it, we eventually found out their schollies were worth more than ours (and anyone elses).

They consistently had the most talented rosters in the country.

Combine that with Tenn consistently being top 5-10 and Bama/AU having some great years in the early to mid 90's and Spurrier had some tough schedules, despite the SEC being top heavy.



Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:45 am to
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If he didn’t have a distaste for recruiting would he have likely done at least a bit better?


He finished in the top 5 multiple years and was obviously good at it.Lots of folks who have a "distaste" for certain tasks can still be very good at it...which he was.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23880 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:55 am to
Top 20.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:57 am to
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He dominated the SEC while it was down and then dominated the SEC East while it was down


You forget that Tennessee in the 90s was a top 10 team every year.
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:59 am to
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The second mistake that followed his career was deciding to take on a historically bad, second-tier SEC team when he hated to recruit.


Yet he went 33-6 in three straight years and finished in the top four one of those years.

Your statement is invalid.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:23 pm to
Top shelf coach.

Certainly top 10 per cent all time.
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