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re: When do facilities start to suffer in NIL era?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:50 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:50 pm to makersmark1
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There are not 50,000 affluent football fans per team.
There absolutely is that for a lot of major programs. Question is why you’d spend it on college sports when you can use those dollars to see professionals & entertain clients at much nicer venues.
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:54 pm to Bamafig
NIL.
Wasn’t it supposed to be so athletes could make money on their “name, image, and likeness”
You know, royalties from jersey sales, video games, sponsorships.
This shite has essentially turned into welfare for athletes.
Taxes pay their tuition. Fools pay to have their money distributed amongst the athletes.
Wonder how much the university “transactions fees” amount to per dollar “donated” to the needy athletes
And now coaches are demanding boosters normal donations be put into the welfare pool to pay players.
What a totalfricking shite show.
Wasn’t it supposed to be so athletes could make money on their “name, image, and likeness”
You know, royalties from jersey sales, video games, sponsorships.
This shite has essentially turned into welfare for athletes.
Taxes pay their tuition. Fools pay to have their money distributed amongst the athletes.
Wonder how much the university “transactions fees” amount to per dollar “donated” to the needy athletes
And now coaches are demanding boosters normal donations be put into the welfare pool to pay players.
What a totalfricking shite show.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:58 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Will the new Westside expansion boost the seating capacity to 70k at Vaught Hemingway?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:05 pm to BevoBucks
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There absolutely is that for a lot of major programs.
An affluent person is not likely to devote every weekend to a ball game.
They’ve got many things to do.
Most doctors have to rotate call schedules.
Most business owners have places to go, things to do, and people to see.
Most of the “rich” people I know actually work very hard for their money and value their time very much.
Why spend a fortune on sports when the return is meager?
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:09 pm to Islandboy777
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Will the new Westside expansion boost the seating capacity to 70k at Vaught Hemingway?
I'm not sure how much of a bump in capacity the renovations will bring. I'm assuming we'd keep it at around 65k. Based on our size, we shouldn't ever try to go over 70k. The renovations would help with trapping crowd noise and making it much nicer for those in attendance.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:42 pm to makersmark1
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Most of the “rich” people I know actually work very hard for their money and value their time very much.
Astros have a Diamond level season ticket offering. It costs approximately a quarter mil per person per season and it’s required that you sign up for a minimum 2 seats and I think 4 years. There’s an 8 year waiting list last time I checked.
Plenty of rich folks are lining up to pay bank for sports experiences. Problem is that colleges have no idea how to cater to them.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:50 pm to BevoBucks
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Plenty of rich folks are lining up to pay bank for sports experiences.
I guess it’s their money so I don’t care what choice they make, but I guess I just don’t care to throw money around to watch something.
At some point there is not an unlimited market of Uber wealthy people to cater all sports to.
At some point the workaday fan who buys a hat and a tee shirt may matter more as far as long term value.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:55 pm to makersmark1
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At some point the workaday fan who buys a hat and a tee shirt may matter more as far as long term value.
That I completely agree with.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:00 pm to BevoBucks
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who buys a hat and a tee shirt
Except they want to turn buying a hat & T-shirt into a $50/month sub & you don’t actually get the hat or the T-shirt
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:10 pm to Shaft Williams
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Facilities don't mean shite anymore. Players want money.
All these players are coming from small little HS stadiums, every SEC stadium is impressive.
The importance of the Facilities Race was always just a way larger universities could throw money around at players and stay legal with the NCAA.
NIL kneecapped the crap out of 100,000 seat stadiums.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:20 pm to BevoBucks
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Plenty of rich folks are lining up to pay bank for sports experiences.
In Texas it is also corporate "entertainment" expenses for execs.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:30 pm to DarthRebel
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NIL kneecapped the crap out of 100,000 seat stadiums.
Meh. If you are bringing in revenue for an extra 30,000 seats per year, there are ways to make that revenue become NIL money
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:39 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
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In Texas it is also corporate "entertainment" expenses for execs.
Yah, think it would blow folks minds to know how man billions spent on sports gets written off as biz expense.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:40 pm to tigerskin
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Meh. If you are bringing in revenue for an extra 30,000 seats per year, there are ways to make that revenue become NIL money
Hang on to that and see if it works out for you. With TV money and boosters with deep pockets, every SEC team can fund any team they want.
Coaches and immediate needs are going to be the only X factor in recruiting now. Kids want to play and be seen, being seen on TV is key.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:46 pm to Bamafig
This would be a good thing. All that facility spend was pointless
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:51 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Already has happened. Lane asked the administration a couple years ago to hold off on our stadium renovation and put the money towards NIL instead.
Is that legal?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:03 pm to Bamafig
Players are making millions. They don't care about facilities
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:25 pm to LouisianimaI
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Everybody now throwing in a $20 spot for NIL collective - just bleeding the common folk slowly so you can win. It’s frees up money for facilities.
This is the part that genuinely pisses me off.
The common fan is already watching the games (giving you the ratings you need to justify your TV contracts), the common fan is already buying your merchandise, the common fan is paying for tickets (which require donations far beyond the ticket prices just for the privilege of buying the tickets), fans are already paying for parking at the games, fans are already the ones who prop up the whole damn system with our irrational interest in the sport, but they still have their hand out. The universities still walk down the sidewalk with their little tin cup shaking around coins looking for more. "How else can we frick our fans out of money" is the #1 job interview question for any new AD hire in modern college football.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:36 pm to deeprig9
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The common fan is already watching the games (giving you the ratings you need to justify your TV contracts), the common fan is already buying your merchandise, the common fan is paying for tickets (which require donations far beyond the ticket prices just for the privilege of buying the tickets), fans are already paying for parking at the games, fans are already the ones who prop up the whole damn system with our irrational interest in the sport, but they still have their hand out. The universities still walk down the sidewalk with their little tin cup shaking around coins looking for more. "How else can we frick our fans out of money" is the #1 job interview question for any new AD hire in modern college football.
It’s unbelievable how many suckers are lapping it up.
I think most experts agree NIL is a stopgap for revenue sharing — the powers that be need to agree on how to address title IX issue & move on already.
Problem is the NIL collective infrastructure will probably remain legal & as long as there are enough willing idiots it could remain an issue for collegiate sports.
I think actually properly paying players from… you know, revenue generated by players… will at least mitigate some of the current problems though.
Mostly because revenue can be regulated. Brought it up in another thread, but that is basically the entire reason NFL got antitrust exemption — to regulate and maintain order/parity in the league.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:40 pm to GTnerd
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Is that legal?
Yes, money for both come from donors.
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