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re: what's great about expanding the playoffs

Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by theRealJesseD
Member since Nov 2021
2882 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Williams was lost in a blowout against a team that had absolutely no goddamn business being on the field with Bama.


dem grapes be so sour
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52687 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:59 pm to
Also, Williams went down in the second quarter of the National Championship game against UGA. Not sure what he is talking about there.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:02 pm to
Generally 2. Most playoff round 2 are mismatches
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:10 pm to
I am continuously curious as to why so many supposed CFB fans are against watching more meaningful games than what the bowls have become. Sure, at this time there is probably a wide gulf between #1 and #12, but if more teams can get in with a chance to play for title, then I do think some parity will follow.

Not to mention, it might just might allow the insanity that is coaching expectations to settle down a bit and we might just see what can happen when coaching staffs get more than a one year grace period and programs can benefit from continuity. It would make those habitually above average programs but not top echelon programs more stable, and more likely to come up with a stellar year on occasion.

Also, I think people keep bitching about blow outs. I think the majority of games will be pretty good. Sure there might be a program head and shoulders above the rest some years, but it is unlikely every year, and well injuries and shite happens. However, regardless of how the season turns out, whether you are a champion or a chump, everyone still has to start over the next season, so yeah I would rather watch fun football more than just have the same few teams get too much benefit of the doubt because of name recognition.

The only big issue I see is the portal timeline with new semesters, but here is where the playoffs might really be a benefit as I think you will see far fewer players immediately decide to jump just because they can and put more thought into sticking with a program for at least two-three years unless they really do have a major issue other than just doing it because they can.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:57 pm to
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I googled this and read some articles about it. Interesting. Not going to lie, kind of put a bug in my brain as I was watching that game last night

I still don't buy into a grand conspiracy though. NFL players compete in a game to win. Its a sport. Questionable calls don't really change that. There are at least as many questionable calls in cfb. There would have to be so many people involved, hard to believe that no one would blow the whistle at this point.


Yeah, I don't think it's outright fixed like the WWE. You still have to have players making plays, and many of the things that happen can't really be scripted.

And it's really impossible to say if something was an honest mistake, or if it was done on purpose.

But they could and it would be 100% legal.

I think mostly what happens is certain things get "help" at times. Things that would cause hype, things people want to see, etc. The teams still have to be good, and they still have to make plays. Derrick Henry is really out there bullying people and making plays. They are usually actually trying to tackle him. Josh Jacbos is out there making plays etc. That's all real.

But I think if the NFL can inject things that will cause hype, or cause people to talk and promote the league etc, they will. It will always be minor things. It's not 100% fixed, but it's not 100% unbiased either.

So would the NFL help a team make a crazy comeback? I think yes. Did it really happen? We'll never know.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
940 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:01 pm to
I would rather see teams 5-12 play each other in the lst round than to see them play teams that should be exhibiton games. For instance:

1. Alabama vs Washington no Austin Peay or Portland State
2. Tennessee vs Penn State no U.T. Martin or Ohio
3. Clemson vs USC no Furman or Rice
4. Utah vs Kansas State. no Southern Utah or South Dakota
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:33 pm to
UT was shown up by UGA long before they lost their QB
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:33 pm to
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every year there are 2 or 3 teams head and shoulders above the rest, and the 4th team might deserve to be there, but no one gives them a chance - like TCU this year.


#4 has won it all as often as #1.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:19 pm to
It's being expanded primarily for HUGE TV revenue.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:26 pm to
You really want to know?

Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.

A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go around,
That clinking clanking sound
Can make the world go 'round.

(Kander/Ebb from “Cabaret”)
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19297 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

It's being expanded primarily for HUGE TV revenue.


That, and the fact the playoffs have made the bowls irrelevant.

The BCS did too for that matter.

No more guessing by sports media for championships. No more split champs, unless you’re some wannabe ucf fan.

It is what it is and shall be, Etc…….
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Every other sport, including all other levels of CFB, allow more teams into the playoffs as a percentage than D-1 CFB...I never hear much complaining about their playoff system



Say you are deaf without saying you are deaf. Playoffs are a huge farce.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:31 pm to
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so you think that the NFL playoff system is totally stupid?


Without a single doubt.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4769 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:06 pm to
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and 14 will make the playoff D1 cfb has 131 teams? 12 will make the playoffs

Talent differential. It is much harder for any select NFL team to make the playoffs as it is for say Bama to be in the Top 12 at the end of the season.
Posted by Steelboy84
Member since Sep 2021
765 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:04 am to
Nothing
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3281 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:01 am to
I'm impressed with how haughty UGU fans have become in such a short period of time. Wasn't that long ago you know.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:07 am to
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how so? Why should a team that's undefeated and a team that has 3 or potentailly even 4 (in a 12 team playoff it may happen) losses both have the same chance to win a national title in a winner take all playoff? If you lose 3 games in a 12 game season, I'm sorry but frick off. You've lost your chance.

Morons gonna moron….

What if the 10th ranked team had two (not all 10th ranked teams have three losses you closed-minded loser) early season close losses to top 5 teams?

We currently have NIL and a vastly expanded transfer portal, but it is an expanded CFP that will destroy college football.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:13 am to
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If after 13 weeks you're only ranked 10th, you've very clearly lost your chance to deserve a title shot.



Even if you haven't lost?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23927 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:32 am to
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If after 13 weeks you're only ranked 10th, you've very clearly lost your chance to deserve a title shot.


I dunno. I can see a scenario where a team had a OOC loss or 2 early in the early season to highly ranked teams. Then that team "gels" and makes a run thru there conference schedule and wins their conference championship game. I'd be ok letting them in.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3133 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:18 am to
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how did cfb fans become so brainwashed that playoffs are bad? In my life the only complaints I've ever heard when it came to playoffs is the way CFB determined a champion...because every other sport had a true playoff system, yes even every level except DA cfb. Do yall not get excited about playoffs in other sports? Hate March madness, NFL, College World series, etc


Truth is the CFP didn’t kill the bowl season, the BCS did. We just didn’t see it at the time. Before the BCS, nearly all the major Jan1 bowls would have had a part in determining the National Champion. It’s been a downhill slide for bowls since.

The plus 1 model gave us 3 meaningful post season games. The new model will give us 7. Yeah there are probably 1-3 teams any given year that are above the others, I get it. But if it we had 12 this year, the top 4 get a bye so no detriment to them. The first round would have been fantastic with the matchups.

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