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re: what's great about expanding the playoffs
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:22 pm to stephendomalley
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:22 pm to stephendomalley
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what's great about expanding the playoffs
Nothing. There weren't 4 deserving teams this year in a field of 4. Why are we to believe that there will be 12 in 2024?
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:23 pm to 3down10
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The NFL is not a sport. They are classified the same way the WWE is classified - sports entertainment. If they classified as just a sport, they wouldn't be able to rig things.
It's a business.
so how is that any different than cfb again?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:24 pm to VoxDawg
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Nothing. There weren't 4 deserving teams this year in a field of 4. Why are we to believe that there will be 12 in 2024?
I don't understand this. What determines if a team is deserving or not? Just your own personal opinion?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:24 pm to stephendomalley
Really is the equivalent of everybody gets a trophy.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:24 pm to stephendomalley
Playoff expansion is awesome! Instead of watching Georgia murder 2 teams, we get to see Georgia murder even more teams!
More useless blowouts make college football better, folks, cuz mUh NfL aNd MuH bAsKeTbAlL dOeS iT!!!11
More useless blowouts make college football better, folks, cuz mUh NfL aNd MuH bAsKeTbAlL dOeS iT!!!11
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:25 pm to stephendomalley
While this will likely mean Alabama and some other SEC teams getting in every year, I'm not crazy about teams with 2 or 3 or more losses playing for a national championship (yes, including us this year and LSU 2007) but is happening and nobody called to get my input.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:30 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What determines if a team is deserving or not?
Fine, "There weren't 4 teams worthy of being deemed 'the best'". This same argument is had every season leading up to Selection Sunday.
tOSU was the best 1-loss team in the field that didn't win their Conference Championship, so that made them the least objectionable pick to round out the Final Four.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:32 pm to Tideroller
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I'm not crazy about teams with 2 or 3 or more losses playing for a national championship
Same here, but you know as well as I do that that hypothetical would be the wet dream of some of the sports writers and fans of mediocre programs.
The talking points write themselves:
"See! We told you that a scrappy, 4-loss Baylor program could hang with the bluebloods of CFB!"
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:35 pm to VoxDawg
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Nothing. There weren't 4 deserving teams this year in a field of 4. Why are we to believe that there will be 12 in 2024?
And there never have been 4 deserving teams.
"But muh 3 won muh title last season"... Yeah, Georgia was already one of the best teams in the country and they only fell to 3 to prevent a back to back rematch with Bama in the first round - otherwise they should have been the clear cut number 2 team. frick the politics, rank the teams as they should be ranked and kill this retarded concept known as the playoffs (OSU should have been number 2 going into the 2014 post season as well).
These extra games are useless and (such as last season) further increases the injury risks to your top stars. Losing Williams was Alabama's nail in the coffin last season as if losing Metchie in a conference title game wasn't bad enough. And the sad part is, Williams was lost in a blowout against a team that had absolutely no goddamn business being on the field with Bama.
And to the "but muh players should sit games out cuz muh injury potential" crowd, how in the goddamn frick is adding more games at the end of the season a positive for draft eligible players trying to avoid a last minute injury that could potentially kill their draft stock? Come the frick on...
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
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NFL playoff system
To me, some of what makes college football great are the differences from the NFL. It sux that it is being made more like the NFL.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:42 pm to MOS0311
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And there never have been 4 deserving teams
Part of the problem is that the committee can't make up it's mind re the most deserving teams and the best teams because those are not the same thing. What they usually end up doing is a mash up of both which always leaves out someone "deserving" and someone who is "one of the 4 best teams now".
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:44 pm to Tideroller
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What they usually end up doing is a mash up of both which always leaves out someone "deserving" and someone who is "one of the 4 best teams now".
There's a weird level of precedent that they've set by never having let in a 2-loss team, even though they swear that they take each week's results on their own merits.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:46 pm to MOS0311
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to the "but muh players should sit games out cut muh injury potential" crowd, how in the goddamn frick is adding more games at the end of the season a positive for draft eligible players trying to avoid a last minute injury that could potentially kill their draft stock? Come the frick on...
how did cfb fans become so brainwashed that playoffs are bad? In my life the only complaints I've ever heard when it came to playoffs is the way CFB determined a champion...because every other sport had a true playoff system, yes even every level except DA cfb.
Do yall not get excited about playoffs in other sports? Hate March madness, NFL, College World series, etc.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:47 pm to 3down10
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the NFL playoffs are done for the sole purpose of entertainmen
Are you seriously saying that major college football is anything more than entertainment? College sports began as exercise programs, so are you saying that because major cfb is linked to colleges that it’s primarily an exercise program for students?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:51 pm to stephendomalley
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every year there are 2 or 3 teams head and shoulders above the rest
Correct answer
2 is best
4 is overkill
After that it is all about the money, boys!
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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how did cfb fans become so brainwashed that playoffs are bad?
years and years of conditioning.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:55 pm to Funky Tide 8
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years and years of conditioning.
must be
I want games in November that are deciding seeding, home or away, bye, etc...and imagining 15 fanbases still excited about the season will be incredible. I think it will be the best playoff in all of sports.
I want on campus playoff games in december. It will suck to play in Ann Arbor but it will be awesome.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:55 pm to Cheese Grits
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4 is overkill
a number 4 seed has won the CFB playoff twice, and a number 3 seed once.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:56 pm to stephendomalley
The 4-team playoff is terrible and has caused a concentration of money, resources, and talent to just a handful of programs. It's worse than if CFB had never gone to a playoff to begin with. The 12-team playoff is an attempt to untangle that and it will take years to do so (that is, if the transfer portal and NIL don't ruin college sports in the meantime)
Posted on 12/8/22 at 4:40 pm to Funky Tide 8
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so how is that any different than cfb again?
It's actually a sport for starters.
It doesn't generate profit for anyone contrary to popular belief.
It's national champion has typically been chosen based on merit, not what a format that is expanded as far as they think it possible while still generating interest in the games for the profit of those who own it.
If you want to make the argument that college football is moving that way, then I can agree. And a good bit of that has to do with the college football playoff organization itself. Oh which is clearly acting on behalf of businesses like ESPN/Fox etc to implement the same model as the NFL, which is expanding it as far as they think is possible while still generating interest for the profit of ESPN and other networks. The schools will get their kick backs, but this is what is happening.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 4:42 pm
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