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re: What proof is there that blue blood programs illegally paid players prior to NIL?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:37 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:37 pm to MizzouTrue
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Wasn’t there some story about Alabama paying some guy named Albert Means 100k to play for the Tide? And it wasn’t just the blue bloods but yes, if you wanted to win championships you definitely needed to pay and deliver “impermissible” benefits
Alabama got busted on that deal for paying above market and pissing off Fulmer who turned us in the NCAA. Going rate for a 4-5* DL in late 90s was 15-20k per a former Alabama/Auburn assistant and power conference head coach that I will not name. Hell Auburn only payed $180k for Cam Newton.
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:39 pm to QBUMizzou
Read the Courting of Marcus Dupree by Willie Morris.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:44 pm to QBUMizzou
Why would you think only Blue Blood programs did that?
This has been going on forever. The payments / benefits took on many different forms. Free use of cars, free food and drinks at certain establishments. Players coming back from practice or games and finding cash stuffed into the toes of their shoes etc, etc. In more modern times, single use debit cards sent to them from unknown sources.
This has been going on forever. The payments / benefits took on many different forms. Free use of cars, free food and drinks at certain establishments. Players coming back from practice or games and finding cash stuffed into the toes of their shoes etc, etc. In more modern times, single use debit cards sent to them from unknown sources.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:47 pm to ManBearSharkReb
These stories are quite educational. Wild.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:02 pm to QBUMizzou
Absolutely
Blue bloods have been penalized before
for different things
Blue bloods have been penalized before
for different things
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:09 pm to QBUMizzou
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Is there any proof?
The majority of the accusations made by so many fans that know someone, the barber, etc. have been upset fans who can not imagine a player would choose someone else over their program after their insiders told him he was a lock. If these accusations were able to be proven those same fans would turn in a school but no proof just upset fans.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:32 pm to QBUMizzou
When kids, whos parents were on government cheese, just out of highschool are driving $45k-50k vehicles they are getting paid lol.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:36 pm to QBUMizzou
Clemson gave Herschel Walker a Corvette but he went to UGA anyway. There was nothing Clemson could do about it because they'd have to admit guilt to try and get it back.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:19 pm to QBUMizzou
It's what jealous, loser fans use as an excuse as to why some teams regularly kick their arse so they can sleep better at night. "It can't be that they have a better program than us, so, cheaters!" But never a shred of proof. Loser cop out.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:23 pm to QBUMizzou
One of the bedrock tenets of faith on TD is that Bama, and only Bama, cheated. The rest were as pure as the driven snow. To suggest otherwise just shows your rank ignorance of SEC football.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:24 pm to QBUMizzou
Ohio St fans said so. All the proof you need
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:40 pm to QBUMizzou
Schools were very good at hiding it, knew they had to but saw the SMU warning and got very careful. Players were probably told not to buy crazy stuff, some did not listen obviously..but yea..we all did it..you have to be insane to think everyone was not doing it in the 2000's..they saw what a ton of money could buy when you over did it at schools like FSU(Free shoes University), USC, etc.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:55 pm to QBUMizzou
We had proof that bama paid Means
We know that Auburn had to beat miss states offer for Cam Newton so somewhere around $200,000
And we know that Aggys bought Eric Dickerson a gold Trans Am that he drove to SMU
We know that Auburn had to beat miss states offer for Cam Newton so somewhere around $200,000
And we know that Aggys bought Eric Dickerson a gold Trans Am that he drove to SMU
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:57 pm to QBUMizzou
Reuben Foster an Auburn commit got an AU tattoo, then signed with Bama.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:05 pm to QBUMizzou
Well in the 1980s, LSU had a basketball player from California, whose family was supposedly on food stamps, driving a Nissan 300zx around town. I’m sure he saved his money and bought it himself, so I guess that isn’t proof.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:06 pm to swinetime
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We know that Auburn had to beat miss states offer for Cam Newton so somewhere around $200,000
bullshite. The NCAA camped out at Auburn for a year, combed through the Newton family finances, and found NOTHING. They even announced it in public, something never before done with an NCAA investigation.
As Cam said less than a year ago on a podcast, "You can't hide that kind of money in my community." Cecil told MSU's booster that his son "wasn't going to be a rented mule".
This is what hurts Alabama and other rival fans the most about him - he came without being paid. None of you have ever gotten over the butthurt. I hope you never do. Post away about it.....
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:13 pm to QBUMizzou
Dumb question… sorry..
Cam Newton ring a bell?
University of Miami in the 80s-90s?
Just look at the history of violations handed out to the “blue bloods”. They just cheated more, spent more money, more hookers, more drugs, more egregious. Those programs got away with more as the NCAA got more & more greedy, handing out slaps on the wrist. Do some research. They are frickn cheats! All the while they brag about how much they won & stomped programs that didn’t cheat or cheat as much. It’s frickn hilarious… OU, LSU, you name it. It’s equally hilarious to see them melt now that everyone can pay players.
Cam Newton ring a bell?
University of Miami in the 80s-90s?
Just look at the history of violations handed out to the “blue bloods”. They just cheated more, spent more money, more hookers, more drugs, more egregious. Those programs got away with more as the NCAA got more & more greedy, handing out slaps on the wrist. Do some research. They are frickn cheats! All the while they brag about how much they won & stomped programs that didn’t cheat or cheat as much. It’s frickn hilarious… OU, LSU, you name it. It’s equally hilarious to see them melt now that everyone can pay players.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 1:37 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:35 pm to QBUMizzou
Common sense
1) kid and kids parents have nothing and come from nothing. Kid is playing football all year, kid shows up to campus in brand new vehicle neither he or his parents can afford
1) kid and kids parents have nothing and come from nothing. Kid is playing football all year, kid shows up to campus in brand new vehicle neither he or his parents can afford
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:35 pm to MizzouTrue
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Wasn’t there some story about Alabama paying some guy named Albert Means 100k to play for the Tide?
No. That's what people say but the truth is much worse.
Albert Means was a pretty highly recruited D lineman from Memphis in 1999. His high school coach was a guy by the name of Lynn Lang.
Lang was supposed to be his advisor. In actuality, he sold Means at auction like Lang was Nathan Bedford Forrest in 1855 Memphis. Georgia, Memphis, Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and a few others were all bidders. Some even gave money. Mike Dubose won the auction with funding from an Alabama booster named Logan Young.
Young and a Tennessee booster named Roy Adams (who went by TennStud in internet forums and hosted hot tub parties for players
) were known to 'battle' to gain recruits for their respective schools all the time. When Lang made the sale to Alabama, Tennessee turned informant, and the rest is history. Bama got docked 21 scholarships, which led to the painful Shula years but set up the Saban run. So why did I say no?
Albert Means never got a penny. Not a cent. Lang kept it all, cut a plea deal with the feds, and got off with probation and a very small fine. Means washed out without making it to the NFL, and Logan Young died falling up some stairs at his home in 2006.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:41 pm to EZOU
This is about the dumbest or most obtuse thread I’ve ever seen.
Besides the players of the past telling us you can simply look at the recent. Are we just suppose to believe that the vast majority of 5 star players went to the same handful of schools just because? And then when NIL comes along and everyone pays that suddenly these same players abandon those schools?
Give it another 10 to 15 years and you’ll easily be able to see the pattern. It was like when the eastern bloc countries dominated the Olympics in certain events in the pre-testing era and then they disappeared when testing started. I’m not saying these schools will disappear but the losses will increase while other teams rise up.
Besides the players of the past telling us you can simply look at the recent. Are we just suppose to believe that the vast majority of 5 star players went to the same handful of schools just because? And then when NIL comes along and everyone pays that suddenly these same players abandon those schools?
Give it another 10 to 15 years and you’ll easily be able to see the pattern. It was like when the eastern bloc countries dominated the Olympics in certain events in the pre-testing era and then they disappeared when testing started. I’m not saying these schools will disappear but the losses will increase while other teams rise up.
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