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re: What is the solution for college sports?
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:16 pm to lewis and herschel
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:16 pm to lewis and herschel
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I think it's about run its course... Be interesting with all the massive stadiums on campus.... one more big scandal and more expense and it's cooked.
Yup. It's been a tax-free racket for decades. The chickens may be coming home to roost.
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:30 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Salary cap
And one transfer unless a coach is fired
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:31 pm to Purple Spoon
Collective bargaining so the schools and athletes are all bound by a set of enforceable rules
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:40 pm to Purple Spoon
Salary cap and one time transfer rule.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:43 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Salary cap
You can't salary cap NIL.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:44 pm to New Money
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LOL. A college sports league can't change federal law.
I’m not a lawyer.. so I guess I don’t understand which federal law you are talking about..
How does the NFL and MLB etc make their own rules? Why couldn’t a similar framework be created?
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:59 pm to BigBro
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I’m not a lawyer.. so I guess I don’t understand which federal law you are talking about..
How does the NFL and MLB etc make their own rules? Why couldn’t a similar framework be created?
The NIL rulings and everything that has followed are based on federal antitrust law.
In short, the courts are ruling that the players can't be denied their right to practice their trade (very simplistic explanation). The SEC/BIG forming their own league isn't going to change the legal environment. Their eligibility rules would carry no more weight than the NCAA's.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:13 pm to Purple Spoon
I think we need 1 free transfer with each of the following losing a year of eligibility, a maximum amount of NIL a player can make being 75 k at the most, and for either the NCAA to try to have some power or let it implode and build a new college sports governing group.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:36 pm to New Money
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In short, the courts are ruling that the players can't be denied their right to practice their trade (very simplistic explanation). The SEC/BIG forming their own league isn't going to change the legal environment. Their eligibility rules would carry no more weight than the NCAA's.
Right, but what gives the NFL the right to limit the salary of individuals? Assuming that’s seen differently than NIL
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:45 pm to vidtiger23
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Right, but what gives the NFL the right to limit the salary of individuals? Assuming that’s seen differently than NIL
The NFL has federal antitrust protection and a collective bargaining agreement.
Their antitrust carve-out is currently under federal scrutiny over blackouts and streaming practices.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:47 pm to New Money
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Their eligibility rules would carry no more weight than the NCAA's.
So again, how do the professional leagues get away with it?
NIL doesn’t matter to me.. that can’t be regulated
But transfer rules can exist with player contracts.. the number of years of eligibility or age is an issue, but for now, let’s put that aside, like NIL.
The transfer portal and unlimited free agency is the #1 issue imo.
Can players be employees with contracts? If so, that’s a starting point.
Why can’t you just setup a 24U league? Soccer does it. Once you age out, the members just won’t sign you. Perhaps there is a 35u league too.. that no one really cares about.. idk, this is all above my pay grade.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:52 pm to BigBro
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So again, how do the professional leagues get away with it?
I already answered that. The NFL has a carve-out under the antitrust laws. That carve-out is currently under scrutiny by federal regulators for blackouts and streaming practices.
MLB has an antitrust exemption.
They can get away with it because Congress authorized them to do so. Congress has not done so for college sports.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:40 pm to Purple Spoon
let this run its course and completely collapse. From there is the only way real amateur college sports can reemerge from the ashes
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:46 pm to Carolina_Tiger
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I personally don't see a ton of long-term value with a breakaway league, unsure of what rules and reforms they would put into place, but could be interesting
The problem is that we have a professional league. These "breakaway super conferences" would all be akin to AA baseball. Fun to watch, but I'm not really invested in it either.
I think this would be as good for college football as the cart-IRL split was for open wheel racing which is now the Indy 500 and who cares
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:58 pm to Dawgs2122
The UFL or the NFL would have to open up the drafting pool to the 18&Us. If the athlete truly is good enough to get paid then they will at the professional level. I know this will never happen but it would add a lot of interest to the UFL if they would adopt this model.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:55 pm to New Money
Why not? Every pro sports league has a cap. Why can't CFB? I get no min for smaller schools, but a max amount per year is done in pro sports...why can't the NCAA set a limit you can spend on a roster per year? Every pro sport is able to do it.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 6:47 am to Purple Spoon
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What is the solution for college sports?
Who are we trying to benefit from this solution?
1. If it’s the illiterate freaks of nature on their way to the NFL, life is pretty good as it is.
2. If it’s normal, genuine students who view football as the extracurricular activity that it actually is, take away athletic scholarships, take the games off TV, pay coaches what professors earn, and stop treating it like a life-or-death multibillion dollar business and realize the Sun will still rise the next day if State U. loses.
3. If it’s fans - which it shouldn’t be - fight for Scenario #2 or accept Scenario #1 because it’s not changing. Realize that CFB resembling an amateur sport was always a house of cards.
Also understand that you are no better than the players. You guys want players who love (or at least have the illusion of love) for your schools just like you do. But players are like women. They’re not in love. They’re in business. That’s been true since long before NIL.
But the irony is fans are in business too. If an SEC fan had the choice of his team winning a championship with 100% out-of-state players vs. just having a good team of 100% in-state players, he would choose the former. No one cares about the star local 3 star QB who went to every camp and game he could and had Joe Burrow or Bryce Young posters all over his wall.
There’s no such thing as loyalty in CFB - from anyone. People are only as loyal as their options. The only way to make fans, coaches, and players seem loyal to each other is to limit their options.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:37 am to Purple Spoon
No solution except blow it up and start over. Universities could solve the problems in one day. As a
Group…because they are the ncaa…they all agree to certain guidelines and follow them. Such as…we don’t allow transfers…end of problem. We don’t pay players beyond tuition and room and board…or whatever figure they agree on. The courts can rules Sorsby or whomever eligible…but the university can decide if he plays. Playing is not a right. No one can force their way onto the field. If an athlete doesn’t want to abide by the rules…they don’t have to…but they also won’t get to play. In one day those problems are solved. This is just like our political issues that we argue for 100 years…no one really wants to solve them because the people making decisions don’t want to lose the money. Who says ncaa games have to be on tv? If tv wants to stop televising…we still can play the games and fans will show up
To watch and it will be more fun than this.
Group…because they are the ncaa…they all agree to certain guidelines and follow them. Such as…we don’t allow transfers…end of problem. We don’t pay players beyond tuition and room and board…or whatever figure they agree on. The courts can rules Sorsby or whomever eligible…but the university can decide if he plays. Playing is not a right. No one can force their way onto the field. If an athlete doesn’t want to abide by the rules…they don’t have to…but they also won’t get to play. In one day those problems are solved. This is just like our political issues that we argue for 100 years…no one really wants to solve them because the people making decisions don’t want to lose the money. Who says ncaa games have to be on tv? If tv wants to stop televising…we still can play the games and fans will show up
To watch and it will be more fun than this.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:39 am to Purple Spoon
The more the current situation unravels, the more convinced I am that there is no healthy way for what are now pro sports and the universities they are tied to to coexist.
The “best” option I can come up with, in crude terms, is that some new league entity is created with an anti-trust exemption from Congress, and the schools sell their football assets to that new entity, possibly with some kind of long term licensing agreement for branding purposes. Men’s basketball is trickier because it has less of its “own” facilities and infrastructure at most schools and would therefore be harder to divest. On the other hand, the NBA already has a development league, so maybe that can just be expanded with college basketball staying intact in a revised form.
All remaining college sports shift to a D3, non-scholarship model.
This would be a drastic change obviously, and I don’t expect that any college admins would go along without being legally forced to.
The “best” option I can come up with, in crude terms, is that some new league entity is created with an anti-trust exemption from Congress, and the schools sell their football assets to that new entity, possibly with some kind of long term licensing agreement for branding purposes. Men’s basketball is trickier because it has less of its “own” facilities and infrastructure at most schools and would therefore be harder to divest. On the other hand, the NBA already has a development league, so maybe that can just be expanded with college basketball staying intact in a revised form.
All remaining college sports shift to a D3, non-scholarship model.
This would be a drastic change obviously, and I don’t expect that any college admins would go along without being legally forced to.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 7:42 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:40 am to byrt bulimia
What Georgia and Nebraska just did with Texas Tech is how you solve the problems. These are the rules…we do t care what the courts say about transfers or nil or gambling. You don’t fall in line we no longer play you on the field.
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