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re: What is the Most Mismanaged Football Program in the SEC?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:21 am to captdalton
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:21 am to captdalton
It's Texas A&M and it has been for a long time.
They have all the resources imaginable and a rabid fanbase, yet consistently are nothing better than just above average.
They have all the resources imaginable and a rabid fanbase, yet consistently are nothing better than just above average.
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:23 am to captdalton
We lost a bidding war to ole miss for Kiffin. Then after going cheap with the hire we lock down that coach with a large buyout at the first sign of success. Then we don’t fire said coach for winning 4 games in year 4 because of the buyout.
We are currently in year 6 of “at least he’s not Chad Morris”
We are currently in year 6 of “at least he’s not Chad Morris”
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:29 am to SL Xpress
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How can the answer in the last 5 years be anything but A&M? I'm a Texas fan, so I'm biased, but show me where I'm wrong?
A&M has spent a ton of money on recruits and buyouts. But they finished #4 in 2020 and have two other 8 win seasons. Compare their record with Auburn, who has also spent a lot on recruits and buyouts (just not as much).
2020 - TAM 9-1; Auburn 6-5
2021 - TAM 8-4; Auburn 6-7
2022 - TAM 5-7; Auburn 5-7
2023 - TAM 7-6; Auburn 6-7
2024 - TAM 8-5; Auburn 5-7
The record of TAM during that time was 37-23. Auburn’s record was 28-33.
Both are trainwrecks, but at least Texas A&M had mostly winning seasons.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:33 am to Poker_hog
I understand this sentiment. I do, but Florida is one of the most talent-rich, if not the most talent-rich states in the country.
FSU and Miami together probably still don't measure up to Texas (who Aggie has to battle every year for in-state recruits).
UF should be at or near the top of the SEC every year. The reason they aren't is because they are horribly mismanaged. Billy fricking Napier??
FSU and Miami together probably still don't measure up to Texas (who Aggie has to battle every year for in-state recruits).
UF should be at or near the top of the SEC every year. The reason they aren't is because they are horribly mismanaged. Billy fricking Napier??
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:34 am to captdalton
Arkansas. Those idiots can't manage to get themselves in out of the rain, much less manage a division 1 football program.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:36 am to Tornado Alley
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They have all the resources imaginable and a rabid fanbase, yet consistently are nothing better than just above average.
I think that is the point.
UF and AU have shown the capacity to be elite. Aggie is historically average. It is almost a part of their culture, so it is not mismanaged. It is who they are.
UF and AU are simply not meeting expectations.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:36 am to Poker_hog
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We lost a bidding war to ole miss for Kiffin.
Buddy it wasn't much of a bidding war. He went where he thought he could build a one hit wonder and jump ship, but he feel victim to the velvet ditch!
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:37 am to Poker_hog
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We are currently in year 6 of “at least he’s not Chad Morris”
my votes A&M cause Florida's had a rough go of it schedule wise the last several years. If florida and A&M were 1a/1b A&M has the worse ROI by alot I would imagine. They've got money to burn and they're basically the Joker in Dark Knight sliding down that burning pile of cash.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:39 am to captdalton
Any SEC program that has not made the playoffs. They have no excuse for not doing so.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:41 am to Che Boludo
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I think that is the point.
UF and AU have shown the capacity to be elite. Aggie is historically average. It is almost a part of their culture, so it is not mismanaged. It is who they are.
UF and AU are simply not meeting expectations.
I agree being average is part of aTm's culture.
But that's not what mismanagement is, which necessarily involves "managing something badly or wrongly" (per Webster). Aggie has that "something" - and by that I mean nearly unlimited resources and every advantage, which they never manage "well or correctly."
Auburn, on the other hand, does not have these same advantages. Furthermore, I think all would agree Auburn has historically punched above its weight and taken advantage of what it could, when it could.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:44 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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FSU and Miami together probably still don't measure up to Texas (who Aggie has to battle every year for in-state recruits).
Texas A&M has gotten more of the top Texas recruits than has Texas since 2020. When Miami was rolling from 1983 to 2002 they won 5 national championships and had 13 ten win or better seasons. During that same time frame FSU had 2 national championships and had 14 ten win or better seasons.
During that same time frame Texas had zero national championships and 5 ten win or better seasons.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:45 am to Granola
See FSU and Miami...we all have had our down times because the state is raided constantly and we have 3 major programs.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:46 am to Tornado Alley
I'd argue if the accepted culture is average, and they continue to manage to be average then they are not mismanaged. They are performing to expectations.
Those with a proven capability to be more and are currently failing to perform well are more mismanaged regardless of resources.
Those with a proven capability to be more and are currently failing to perform well are more mismanaged regardless of resources.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:47 am to captdalton
as a BIG 10 2 x consecutive National Champion fan,looking in from the outside, id say ots a tie between Auburn and Florida.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:55 am to captdalton
I would say under the previous AD and President at AU we were vying for the most poorly managed SEC athletic department. That group practically self-imposed the death penalty on our football team.
The current regime is showing some promise, but it is fair to say we have not escaped the lower half of the SEC yet.
The current regime is showing some promise, but it is fair to say we have not escaped the lower half of the SEC yet.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:56 am to Che Boludo
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UF and AU have shown the capacity to be elite. Aggie is historically average. It is almost a part of their culture, so it is not mismanaged. It is who they are.
UF and AU are simply not meeting expectations.
Completely agree.
Auburn effed up badly when hiring AD Greene/ HC Harsin. A self inflicted land mine. Gus left the cupboard completely bare, Harsin destroyed recruiting, and Freeze struggled to replenish in his first two seasons.
In fairness, had our PK Mcpherson been healthy last season, I believe Auburn wins 3 additional games (definitely 2, possibly 4). Finishing the 2nd half of the season with your 3rd string kicker is a tough disadvantage in the SEC … every time.
Unfortunately, injuries (illness) happens and it’s part of the game. The good news is that Mcpherson appears to have recovered in time for the start of 2025 season, and our OL has improved considerably
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:57 am to Gatorbait2008
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Arky
Their mismanagement was colossal but was more than 5 years ago. Gave Beilema a big extension when he only had two conference wins in 2 years.
Fired Bielema (buyout) and Long(buyout), then with no AD, hired a Chad Morris(buyout).
Winning 3 bowl games in 4 years after that is impressive.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:58 am to jiffyjohnson
Insert Freek’s gif of Petrino wreckage.
It’s been one pair of clown shoes after another since.
It’s been one pair of clown shoes after another since.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:07 pm to captdalton
It’s Aggy.
Auburn are in a down period but they’re a tiny cow college in the middle of nowhere, Alabama. They’ve won conference titles and have a fairly recent NC with another appearance.
Aggy have done nothing in their entire history despite having unlimited funds and being located in the 5th largest metro area in the country that also happens to be a recruiting hotbed.
Auburn are in a down period but they’re a tiny cow college in the middle of nowhere, Alabama. They’ve won conference titles and have a fairly recent NC with another appearance.
Aggy have done nothing in their entire history despite having unlimited funds and being located in the 5th largest metro area in the country that also happens to be a recruiting hotbed.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:15 pm to captdalton
Auburn over the past 5 years for sure.
Going back much further than that you’d probably have to say Tennessee.
Going back much further than that you’d probably have to say Tennessee.
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